The Grummys: War Within Edition

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All right, good morning,
everybody. This is Azeroth Morning

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Radio. Don't know what that
means, but I put it in there. Anyway,

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this episode, number eight,
it's Warcraft for the rest of us,

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the nine to fivers, those of
us working the weekends, parents,

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all the fun things, we're your
hosts. My name's Jibs, and I'm joined

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by Dunborough's 2008 mayor.
His name is Cash.

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Hey there.

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I don't know how you passed
for mayor. You're like 6 foot 8 and

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just a skinny little fella.

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Thanks for bumping me up a few
inches, but no, I'm not six foot

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eight. I am six foot three.
But I did. I did win. This is actually

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a true one. This is true. I
did win a prize for being the tallest

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Yoda at a Star wars cosplay
event. 6 foot 3 Yoda. And my daughter

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at the time, she was little,
but she was. She was Vader. She was

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like a. Like a three and a
half foot tall Vader.

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That's so funny.

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And I was a 6 foot 3 yoda.

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I feel like it should have
been backwards.

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I feel like that was kind of
the. The point of it was to make

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people laugh and it worked.
And actually. Oh my gosh, dude, I

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totally almost forgot this. I
also was a 6 foot 3 Frodo when we

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went. Actually, no, it wasn't
Frodo. It was the Hobbit when we

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went to Dragon Con all those
years ago.

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Yeah. Looks like meat's back
on the menu, boys. Oh, wow, that

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brings back memories. I
remember seeing all those pics from

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that. Geez, dude, that was
like 10 years ago.

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Yeah, that was a. Cash doesn't
cosplay people, okay? I don't cosplay.

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Every once in a while, I get
like this massive lightning strike

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of nerdism and I'll do
something funny like that.

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So, yeah, you say that, but
you have a bow and a quiver behind

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you, and I know you have a
legit ranger costume.

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Why are you outing people?

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Whoa. Don't lie. I can see
your bow.

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Okay, so maybe I do. That's
for the Ren Faire, though.

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Oh, that is fun. I love when
you guys do the Ren Faire.

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Am I a cosplayer, bro?

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No, you're a closet nerd. It's
like you're afraid to step out of

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the closet. You want me to
pull you out?

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Although. Although I was like.
I was seriously darting across the

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Ren Faire in my Ranger costume.

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Yeah.

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And feel like I had the full
freaking Ranger mustache. And like,

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that was real. Everything was
like, look, man, that cosplay was

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on point, and people were
like, fine, Ranger sir. And I. And

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I. I'd look at them, like,
with a. With my eyes like, agape

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and my mouth agape and my eyes
wide. And I would say, shh, there's

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goblins afoot. And I'd race
off and they'd just start laughing,

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really. Like, I was on my way
to get another beer, but, oh, my

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God. People would be like,
there's goblins afoot, and just run.

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Oh, I love it.

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That is character.

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That is awesome. Well, how was
your week in gaming? How was WOW

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for you this past week, buddy?

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I was back in WOW with full
force this week. It was. It was good.

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I've put in some really good
days. I'm still trying to finish

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up lmix, and it's. It's. It's
hard. Like, I've done, for the most

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part, Like, I'm just cleaning
up quests now. Like, I've done so

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much, but I keep getting
sucked back into Mythics. I keep

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getting sucked back into
raiding. I just, Like, I just want

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to. And at this point, my
whole goal is to just finish off

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as many Transmog sets as I can
possibly get. Like, I now I want

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to collect them all. So I got
most of those, at least the ones

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that are released before.
Before the next patch for Remix comes

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out. And then now I'm working
on mounts, even though there's a

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bunch of mounts that I don't
really want. But it's just a collector's

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thing. I'm like, yeah, I just.
I'm trying to beef it up to get closer

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to that 500. I don't have 500
mounts yet.

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Yeah. Did you see this new 600
mount reward they've got coming?

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It's pretty sick.

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Yeah, it's pretty sick. And,
you know, like, I. I am kind of a

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collector. I'm more of an
achievement hunter. But at this point,

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it's just like, well, Remix is
here. It's out. I'm at 7:40. I'm

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freaking just one shot,
everything. And it's still fun. But

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I really do miss my retail
character. So I hopped back into

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retail, actually, just this
morning. I was old man up at 4am

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this morning, so made A cup of
coffee, and I just got back on my

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retail character, and now I'm
starting to go through the weekly

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stuff. And it's funny because
I was going through the weekly stuff

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literally, like, by the time
we recorded this show, like a few

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hours before reset happens
anyway. So I'm like, well, I might

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as well finish off time
walking and a few other things. But,

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yeah, when I log back in
later, I'm logging into retail, so

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I gotta force myself at least
until Argus comes out. And then once

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that's out, then I'll do that
storyline and then play remix a little

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bit and then back to my retail
character. I just. I miss Mythics.

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I think I'm going to feel like
I don't know how to heal Mythics

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anymore, so I'm a little
paranoid about it.

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Yeah. Yeah, I could see that.
That's the. That's the beauty and

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possibly the curse with remix
is that, like, you get so accustomed

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to just literally flying
through everything because it's,

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you know, everyone's so, like,
dialed up with their power levels

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and everything. And then you
go back to retail and you're like,

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oh, wait, I got to be tactical here.

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I know. Like, I got to slow
down. I should not be in cat form

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the entire time. Like, oh,
this guy needs a heel. I should probably

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do that for him. Yelled at.

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Yeah, that's right. That's
right. Yeah, man, it's been a fun

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week. I've definitely been
transmog hunting. I went and did

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some. I, too, was up early
this morning right before reset.

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And by the way, we are
recording a little bit earlier this

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week, folks, so if there is
any, like, a major news, we'll cover

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the following episode.
Promise. But yeah, so I was up early

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doing lfrs specifically for
the. Some transmog for. For the class.

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And so I was doing that did. I
went back and did Warlords of Draenor

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raids for Mog. And I was
doing. Trying to hunt down the ever

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elusive vestment of the Tide
Sages. For those of you who don't

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know what that is, it only
drops on Mythic from what is the

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dungeon Shrine of the Storm,
from battle for Azeroth. And I think

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the drop chance is like 0.01.
I think maybe 0.05. And so I started

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farming that. And that'll be a
weekly thing for me.

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So I have a question. Isn't
that a cloth piece?

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I. I might have mucked this
one. Up a wee bit.

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So anyway, this week on the
show, we freaking. No.

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Nope. People are gonna get to
know us. And this is all part of

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it. Jim's.

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Yeah.

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But why? I'm just, I'm
wondering because it slips my mind.

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Oh, does it?

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Maybe trying, huh?

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Yeah.

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Why are you trying to get
cloth pieces for Transmog? What happened

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to the mail?

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Oh, well, you know, I'm just
getting everything, you know, just

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seems felt like the right
thing to do.

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Oh, you are so full of a giant
metric ton of freaking. Yeah. What?

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Done. Yeah. I was going to
say, watching you.

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Try to censor yourself is like.

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Because I typically don't
censor myself very well.

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It's like your body's refusing it.

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So Jibs is playing a warlock
this week?

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This week. This week.

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Look at.

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I love it. Yeah, no, I, I, I
went back to Cloth. I wanted to play

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Cloth originally. It's the
truth. I think this. I'm not even

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gonna say that because I was
listening to the previous episode

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again. I like to actively
listen to our episodes when they

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come out because I'm
constantly critiquing an edit, and

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so I'm seeing where I can, you
know, where we can do better. And

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I heard myself say, yeah, I
think I found my. Think I might have

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found my main for Midnight.
And I'm like, okay, we're just not

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gonna say that on the air anymore.

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I love it, though. I love it.
I think for, For. For some comedic

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relief. Like, not that we need
any comedic relief because you and

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I in a room just flicking each
other in the nuts. It's comedic relief

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enough, I think. I mean, it's
entertaining for me. Listen to us

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do it. So hopefully the people
like it, but I like telling these

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stories. And it's not. I mean,
it's partly me uncovering your issues

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with characters.

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Oh, my gosh. Really?

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It's not uncommon for people
to bounce from character to character,

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so it's okay.

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Honestly, what it is. It's a
problem. I was thinking the day I'm

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like, you know, you have a
good game when you like every class.

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And aside from Evoker, that's
the one I have zero desire to ever

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play. No. No offense to anyone
who does play that, but just does

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not resonate with me at all.
And so I think that's the only one.

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But outside of that, I mean,
they're all great classes. Hunter,

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Great. Paladin. Hello. Druid.
So many forms, so many things to

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collect. You are a farming
machine with that thing. I mean,

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you know, it goes on and on
and on. Mage. Beautiful. I mean,

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so, yeah, Priest, they're all
great. They're all great and so,

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yeah, good problem to have.
But anyway folks, thanks so much

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for tuning in, hanging out
with us, Push and play. We really

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do appreciate all of you,
every single one of you. It's always

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exciting every single Tuesday
when the episode drops, watching

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your responses, seeing your
comments. And we can't thank you

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enough for your support and
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week on the show, we're
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Blizzcon. We got a fun little
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gets snarky and a whole lot
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this. Commercial break.

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All right, everybody, welcome
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right in the hero's call.
Let's get that going.

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Heroes call

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Friends and adventurers. It is
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the month of November.
Actually right after Halloween, it's

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usually the weekend after
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Weekend. And here on the
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be very appropriate to
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concept of Extra Life and this
is something that is again, very

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near and dear to our hearts
because we've taken part in this

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for many, many years now. Over
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The concept is this, as a
gamer, you register, you pick a local

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children's hospital. It could
be local, it could be one all the

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way across the United States.
Maybe you lived in New York at one

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time and a children's hospital
in New York, you know, helped your

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nephew or helped you, whatever
children's hospital that's in this

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network you can choose to
support. And basically what you do

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is you're playing games and
raising funds from your family, friends,

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the gaming community at large
and that. It's kind of like a marathon,

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like a lot of people will do.
It started as a 24 hour marathon,

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but I think as the age of
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Yes, I'm talking about myself.
People are like, I ain't doing 24

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hours. Like I've done 24 hour
marathons quite a few times and they

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can be brutal. So you can
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the goal is to play 24 hours
total and fundraise. You don't have

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to stream it. We typically
would and we've actually had, over

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the years we've had some
really impressive fundraising efforts

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happen because of this, I
believe. One year, one year we actually

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got sponsored by a company and
ended up raising over 30 grand for.

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It was a, a company that was
making a digital board game. So kind

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of like Hearthstone type
thing. But they sponsored us and

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we ended up with over $30,000
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That's awesome.

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And my cat is losing his mind.
I hear that outside my door I.

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Hear that I got you.

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I'll be right back.

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Yeah, Extra Life is very, very
important to Cash and I. It's Something

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that we typically would do
every year. Now this year we're not.

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However, someone did send us a
message, an email actually, and asked

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was that something we do or we
will be doing? And answer, yes, absolutely,

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absolutely. In a big, big way.

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Yeah. This year, I will say
this. This year, embarrassingly enough,

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we had so many things going on
that this like flashed right by us.

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And as you know, we've been
talking about our Twitch page for

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Twitch Channel for a little
while. That is going to be a thing.

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But as of right now, we're not
like fully set up for it yet or ready.

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It's going to be again, it's
like a stretch goal for us, but we

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will be on there and I don't
know, maybe we'll do like a freaking

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raid a thon or something for
Extra Life next year. But we're definitely

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going to be taking part in
Extra Life again. We'll probably

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be forming a team for it,
which will be fun. But I wanted,

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I wanted to get into a little.
A few of the key facts about Extra

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Life and what makes it so
awesome. So it's been going on since

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2008. Extra Life has been a
thing and they have to date raised

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over $130 million as of 2025,
which is, it's nuts. I remember when

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they passed 100 million, I
remember when they passed 30 million

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and it was an awesome thing.
But $130 million from gamers and

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people that they know and
gaming companies and stuff like that.

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People that, that are trying
to make and make an impact on these

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children's hospitals. So where
do your funds go? This one, I have

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very innate knowledge of this
and, and I'll tell you why here in

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a second. But the funds go to
this, to CMN hospitals and the hospitals

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will decide how to use the
funds. And the funds are typically

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used in equipment, research,
child life services, etc. The reason

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that I have such innate
knowledge of this is because for

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quite a while I ran a local
chapter here in Orange County, California

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and we benefited Children's
Hospital of Orange county. And I

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did several events at the
hospital itself. They have a full

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recording studio in there and
we were given access to the recording

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studio in there. It's
actually, it's a Ryan Seacrest recording

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studio because he does a lot
of sponsorships through his foundation

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specifically for children's
hospitals, which is amazing. Like

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Brian Seacrest. Brian Seacrest
is a very good dude. But through

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that I was able, you know,
just through meetings and the people,

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the administrators at the
hospital, I was able to meet. I actually

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got to see where these funds
go and is 100% of your funds go to

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exactly what I was saying.
Actually a lot of the money got,

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got sent to the parents of
sick kids who were, you know, obviously

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the kids were in the hospital
and needing to be seen for injuries

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and illnesses and the parents
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And that's where a lot of this
money ended up going. The other area

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it went is, you know, putting
families up while they're, while

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their child is being treated.
They would put families up in, you

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know, homes around the area
and that's where a lot of this money

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went to. They would buy video
game system systems for kids to make

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their stay a little more
palatable and just little things

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like that all the way to
treatment for the kids. So. And it

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is 100. It's a full non profit
organization. It's run by some very

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incredible people who are
super dedicated to the cause. So

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I always worry about where my
money goes. Always, always, always

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if I'm giving to charities
because we, you know, we, we give

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a lot in my family and I am
always very leery about where that

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money goes. So I like to do my
research and that's why Extra Life

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is definitely at the top of
our list. So with Extra Life you

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can participate from anywhere.
You can do it at home, you can do

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it online streaming. It
doesn't matter where, where you do

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your personal fundraising. And
people get super into this. Like

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we have tried or like we've
tried to get our team like on the

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top 10 board. And it is, it's
nuts because there's massive gaming

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companies that are supporting
this thing and it's, it's become

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an event across gaming for the
last decade or so, which is really,

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really cool. It's actually
over a decade, well over a decade.

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So we've taken part in quite a
few of them. Tried to keep each other

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awake in the wee hours of the night.

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Very true.

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While we do this.

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Very true. Yeah. As we've
gotten older and the more years have

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gone on, kind of like what you
said earlier, like we don't do the

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24 like hollow one any, any
anymore. It's like maybe an eight

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hour, maybe a 12. But ages,
they're still fun. They are still

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fun. Yeah, definitely.

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So just, just a quick story.
Last year, as you, as you may or

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may not know, we were
podcasting for a game that's in development

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called Ashes of Creation. And
we had an Extra Life event where

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we were playing in the alpha
of that game for the entire period

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of time that we were doing our
marathon and we ended up getting

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visited by the main developer
of the game. He spawned in as a massive

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demon that nobody had ever
seen. They, he, like the developers

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changed, this is all during
our stream. It was the coolest thing.

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They completely changed the
tone. They turned night or day into

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night. Like live.

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Yep.

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And he shows up on the stream
with this massive demon still. We

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were doing a naked run from
one town to another. So our entire

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group of people is probably 40
or 50 of us, all like down to our

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druthers running across this
bridge and this massive demon spawns.

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And the reason being was
because this particular developer,

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Intrepid Studios, they're
very, very big supporters of Extra

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Life. Like they've done Extra
Life events every single year. But

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last year they weren't, they
weren't able to because they were

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so. They were in crunch. They
were like in a pretty deep spot of

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development for their game. So
they weren't able to do it, but the

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developers were able to, you
know, I guess celebrate us because

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we were doing it and it was
just the coolest thing. So Extra

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Life Day is a big day. It's
very special for a lot of people

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and things like that just end
up happening. And to me it shows

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how the gaming community can
directly support real world charitable

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causes and just be a
juggernaut for that cause. It's just

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amazing things that community
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Yeah, yeah, definitely. That's
the best thing I. Well, that's one

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of the things I really enjoy
when gamers get together and they

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focus on a single effort and
they make huge waves and huge impacts

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just through gaming because it
always tends to raise an eyebrow

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and people are like, oh, I
didn't realize that could happen.

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Like, oh no, it can, it can in
a big, big way. So yeah, I always

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love when gamers do that. It's
a good time.

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Yeah. And it gives, you know,
it gives you, it gives you the feels

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like it truly does. You know,
it feels like your, your efforts

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are going toward a cause and
you're able to bridge the virtual

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world with the real world,
which, you know, we talk about those

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parallels on this show all the
time and it's, it's important to

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us. So we wanted to showcase
it on Heroes Call and you can guarantee

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that Azeroth Morning Radio is
going to be a part of Extra Life

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for many years to come.

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Agreed. Agreed. Couldn't say
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One last thing. If you're
interested in learning more, you

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can either email us and we
will get you the information, or

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you can go to extra-life.org
and they're finishing up this year

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through December, but come
January 1st, you can register for

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2026.

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There you go.

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And also, when you make leaps
and bounds in your own fundraising,

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they send you things. You get
T shirts and medals and all kinds

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of cool stuff just for
participating. So extra-life.org

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there you go.

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Breaking news brought to all
of you by the Goblin News Network.

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All right, so first in the
headlines this week, we got exploded.

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Explore the neighborhoods of
Azeroth with player housing. Music

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patch. Excuse me in Patch.
1-3-11. This coming to us from wowhead.com

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and quote. With player housing
just on the horizon, the finishing

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touches appear to be taking
shape. Explore the neighborhoods

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of Azeroth with epic new
musical scores that will almost certainly

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have you yearning for home.
And they list an entire playlist.

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Cash, you and I both were kind
of just diving into this. I played

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close to an hour with it,
particularly the interior music,

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track number one from David
Arkenstone. Oh, buddy, that is amazing

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music.

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It is. It's a good mix between
what you would hear in Elwynn Forest

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and Tavern music.

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Oh, wow. Yeah, Nice pull.

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It's very calming. There's
lutes like. It is just fantasy music

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at its best. And I think one
of striking features is that a lot

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of these. Is it all of them or
is it. I think it's all of them are

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written by David Arkenstone.

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Oh, wow. I didn't realize they
were all written by him. I know there's

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other people listed, but I
didn't know if that they. He wrote

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all of it.

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Oh, well, maybe. Maybe it's
not. Maybe some of them are. I know

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that, like, my favorite is the
Broomwood one. That is definitely

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David Arkenstone. Let me kind
of click through these a little bit

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and we'll see if there's
different. Yeah, there. There's some

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different artists. Leo
Kaliske, Adam Burgess and Jake Lefkowitz.

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Yeah, there's. There's a bunch
of them. But I mentioned Arkenstone

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because Arkenstone is pretty
well known in the World of Warcraft

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music community. And he also
did one of our favorite albums of

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all time. Jobs.

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Oh, gosh. Taverns of Azeroth.

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That's the one. Oh, man.

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Man, I was starting to sweat.
You can't do that.

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Look for a new co host.

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We're putting the word out.
Jibs has been fired.

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Never replace.

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You kidding me? Yeah, man. I
tell you, this music it's such a.

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It's such a crazy thing. And
when I was teaching audio engineering,

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it was always, you know, one
of the things I would always say

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is audio is king. It's
everything. It's. It is. It is everything

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in a movie. It's everything in
a video game. If you watch a horror

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movie and you put it on mute,
you will quickly find out that said

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horror movie becomes a comedy.
If you go. And we always, always

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took them to this. Took them
to this movie specifically. If you

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go to Dune, when they recently
remade the Dune. Dune movie and they

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have a whole documentary on
just how they created the sounds

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and you got. And you really
get a good vibe and understanding

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of everything that goes into
it. And if. Same with Warcraft, like

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play boot up Warcraft and mute
it or have some fun with it. Turn

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down, let's say you turn down
the music, but you crank up the ambience.

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Well, what is that? What does
that do for you? And vice versa.

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And so music really is
everything. And it's such an impactful

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thing in gaming, in movies, in
everyday life, and it really is what

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helps set the tone for what a
player gets to enjoy when they're

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in front of a game.

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Yeah, it. It really does. It
really does solidify the mood for

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sure. And if you will, when
you're truly listening to the music,

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you listen to the transition
between just adventuring and then

430
00:28:26,190 --> 00:28:29,790
when you transition into
combat, you can hear those changes.

431
00:28:30,030 --> 00:28:34,900
And it really does set the
entire tone for a gameplay session,

432
00:28:34,900 --> 00:28:39,620
or as Jibs was saying, for a
movie. And it's. It's stuff that's

433
00:28:39,620 --> 00:28:43,220
meant to be in the background.
It's not necessarily meant for you

434
00:28:43,220 --> 00:28:48,260
to key in on it, but when you
do, you realize just how impactful

435
00:28:48,740 --> 00:28:52,700
it is for the experience that
you're having. So for something like

436
00:28:52,700 --> 00:28:55,980
this, I think they nailed it
with these songs. And do yourself

437
00:28:55,980 --> 00:29:02,030
a favor, go look at the full
playlist on YouTube for Azeroth player

438
00:29:02,030 --> 00:29:06,510
housing. It is excellent.
There's some really good tracks in

439
00:29:06,510 --> 00:29:09,390
there. Jib said he listened to
that one on repeat for an hour. And

440
00:29:09,390 --> 00:29:13,310
I can see why. I mean, it's
just. It really sets the mood when

441
00:29:13,310 --> 00:29:16,270
you're going to be. You're
going to be spending hours. Hours,

442
00:29:16,510 --> 00:29:20,350
yeah. Inside and outside of
your home, friends. Most of you probably

443
00:29:20,350 --> 00:29:23,600
will be, oh, gosh, yeah. Some
people aren't, you know, really into

444
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:28,600
it, and that's super cool. But
the fact that they are, they say

445
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,920
they're putting the finishing
touches on stuff, and now they're,

446
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,480
you Know, they're letting us
discover what the music is going

447
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,560
to be. They, they're not
pulling any punches with housing.

448
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:38,120
No.

449
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:43,720
An entire soundtrack just for
housing. They're not mailing this

450
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,440
in. Friends. Housing is going
to be a juggernaut.

451
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:51,150
Yeah, yeah, it really is. And,
and it's great because we kind of

452
00:29:51,150 --> 00:29:55,750
got to see. It's almost like
we kind of got to see through the

453
00:29:55,750 --> 00:30:00,070
window, a glimpse into what
housing is going to feel like just

454
00:30:00,070 --> 00:30:03,790
by listening to these tracks.
And yeah, I had it on. I was just

455
00:30:03,790 --> 00:30:08,550
in Warcraft playing and I had
the in game music muted and I had

456
00:30:08,550 --> 00:30:11,750
the YouTube video just cranked
up while I was listening and I'm

457
00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:16,070
like, oh, my gosh, this is so
seamless. This is perfect. It's so,

458
00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:20,310
so perfect. And you're right,
there's gonna be plenty of us, us

459
00:30:20,310 --> 00:30:25,830
included, who will spend
hours. Hours. You know, we talk last

460
00:30:25,830 --> 00:30:29,790
episode, we talked about how
the classes may change what happens

461
00:30:29,790 --> 00:30:33,790
to people in game in World of
Warcraft in a big, big way. Housing,

462
00:30:33,790 --> 00:30:37,990
I think, is just going to flip
everything on its head, man. Hours

463
00:30:37,990 --> 00:30:40,950
will be spent listening to
this music inadvertently.

464
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,600
Yeah, there will be. I wonder
if there's a way for us to put some

465
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,560
of this music in the show so
they can hear it without getting

466
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:48,840
caught.

467
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:49,680
Oh, you mean like this?

468
00:31:19,350 --> 00:31:25,990
Okay, that is fantastic. And
hopefully I don't think we'll get

469
00:31:25,990 --> 00:31:29,310
a strike for that, but I mean,
it's free advertising.

470
00:31:29,310 --> 00:31:30,070
It's amazing.

471
00:31:30,310 --> 00:31:35,570
But it is, it is a very big
part of my gameplay. I know. It's

472
00:31:35,570 --> 00:31:40,890
a very big part of jibs.
Gameplay is music and ambience. Sounds

473
00:31:40,970 --> 00:31:42,490
are everything.

474
00:31:42,570 --> 00:31:43,290
Oh, it is.

475
00:31:43,290 --> 00:31:45,770
So, yeah, really do yourself a favor.

476
00:31:45,850 --> 00:31:48,370
Go back to Arthas and
everything with the wrath of the

477
00:31:48,370 --> 00:31:51,690
Lich King. And you hear that,
the little boy singing the choir

478
00:31:51,690 --> 00:31:55,050
part at the beginning, does
that not instantly take you back

479
00:31:55,050 --> 00:31:55,850
to wrath?

480
00:31:56,010 --> 00:31:56,490
Yes.

481
00:31:57,210 --> 00:32:00,050
And you get the vibe
immediately of the downfall of the

482
00:32:00,050 --> 00:32:02,450
Lich King. The heaviness and
weight of everything that's being

483
00:32:02,450 --> 00:32:05,040
carried. Oh, man, so good.

484
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,760
Here's another one. I know
this one will get you because it

485
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,280
got me Jaina talking to her papa.

486
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:16,680
Oh, buddy, oh, buddy, oh.

487
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,120
Battle for Azeroth. That
opening scene with Jayna talking

488
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:25,760
to her dad and oh my gosh,
that one. I mean, look at the time.

489
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,650
My daughter was younger, but
many man did that bring back when

490
00:32:29,650 --> 00:32:34,450
she was a little tiny girl.
And that one really, really got my

491
00:32:34,450 --> 00:32:35,210
heartstrings.

492
00:32:35,530 --> 00:32:38,530
Yeah. I'll never forget and I
believe this is what he said. I will

493
00:32:38,530 --> 00:32:41,370
weather every Storm, if I know
you are there waiting for me.

494
00:32:41,530 --> 00:32:49,050
I'm just like, okay, you can't
do that. I'm for clamp. Dead baby

495
00:32:49,050 --> 00:32:49,450
dolphins.

496
00:32:49,450 --> 00:32:50,490
Okay, so I want to ask you this.

497
00:32:50,490 --> 00:32:57,040
Dirty socks. Oh, the tears are real.

498
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,000
All right, let me ask you this.

499
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:58,400
Yeah.

500
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:04,080
Favorite. You have to pick
one. Favorite zone music of all time.

501
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,360
You're known for what? Really? Really?

502
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:08,320
Wow.

503
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,880
Well, okay. Okay. We. Okay, if
you're talking World of Warcraft.

504
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,880
Elune hates you right now.

505
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,200
Eluna, get over it. Because
that one for us is really good. She's

506
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:26,000
like, right now, Elune, like,
By the light of the moon. She's very

507
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,640
upset. Are you. Were you
talking just Warcraft?

508
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:35,920
Warcraft all time, best zone
music you had. If you had. If you

509
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,200
had to pick one. And it can
just be your favorite today. It doesn't

510
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,240
have to be like, you know,
next week you could say something

511
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,040
different. But as of this moment.

512
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:48,400
Okay, so I really like the
Emerald Dream a lot. It's very. It's

513
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,870
very Druidy. And I can't steal
yours because I already know what

514
00:33:51,870 --> 00:33:52,510
you're gonna say.

515
00:33:53,310 --> 00:33:54,590
You can say it. It's okay.

516
00:33:54,590 --> 00:33:58,590
No, I'm. I'm gonna stick. I'm
gonna stick with Elwyn and. And this

517
00:33:58,590 --> 00:34:03,750
is. It's a hundred percent
because of nostalgia purposes, but.

518
00:34:03,750 --> 00:34:07,110
Yeah. And you know what?
Darnassis is pretty good, too. It

519
00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:11,190
would actually. Yeah, it would
actually be like the. The Night Elf

520
00:34:11,190 --> 00:34:16,950
starting Zone. That one for me
or Elwyn is. I think they're fantastic

521
00:34:16,950 --> 00:34:23,790
scores in, you know, on their
own. But to me, they bring back so

522
00:34:23,790 --> 00:34:30,550
much nostalgia that. That it
gets my goat. The other. So, yeah,

523
00:34:30,550 --> 00:34:34,070
I would say L1 for. If I have
to pick one, I'd say L1, but pretty

524
00:34:34,070 --> 00:34:40,030
much anything off of that.
Taverns of Azeroth is also. It's

525
00:34:40,030 --> 00:34:42,150
also like, way, way up there.

526
00:34:42,380 --> 00:34:42,660
Yeah.

527
00:34:42,660 --> 00:34:43,420
On my list.

528
00:34:43,420 --> 00:34:43,820
Yeah.

529
00:34:43,820 --> 00:34:44,340
How about you?

530
00:34:44,340 --> 00:34:47,340
Oh, mine's easy for Alice. I
think you knew I was going there.

531
00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:53,660
That is a. Oh, man, that is.
That is prime real estate right there.

532
00:34:55,020 --> 00:34:57,100
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is.

533
00:34:57,180 --> 00:35:04,140
It's. It's just. It's a good
mix of the cool town that you experience

534
00:35:04,620 --> 00:35:08,140
at the beginning of a dark
pirate movie.

535
00:35:08,730 --> 00:35:11,850
Yeah, that's really well said.
Yeah, really well said.

536
00:35:12,170 --> 00:35:17,690
You think like Pirates of the
Caribbean or to Go. Right. Tortuga,

537
00:35:18,010 --> 00:35:20,490
you know, and, you know, it's
gonna get bad.

538
00:35:20,490 --> 00:35:20,890
Yeah.

539
00:35:20,890 --> 00:35:22,090
But this is a happy time.

540
00:35:22,090 --> 00:35:22,530
Yeah.

541
00:35:22,530 --> 00:35:23,450
And we're in town.

542
00:35:23,450 --> 00:35:24,170
Right. Right.

543
00:35:24,329 --> 00:35:27,650
So there's a lot of, like,
fun, whimsical stuff going on and

544
00:35:27,650 --> 00:35:29,930
I think that's what Borales
feels like to me.

545
00:35:29,930 --> 00:35:33,730
Oh yeah, yeah. Brales is
Bareilles is a lot of things and

546
00:35:33,730 --> 00:35:37,120
one of them is amazing. I will
say that. So anyway, you can check

547
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,160
this out. Explore the
neighborhoods of Azeroth. We'll play

548
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,480
your housing music. Coming to
you from wowhead.com Next up, you've

549
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:47,080
got. Less than 1% of housing
decor items are currently flagged

550
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,960
as shop sources. So this
should put some nerves to bed here.

551
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,080
This again coming to us from
wowhead.com, quote with Blizzard

552
00:35:54,080 --> 00:36:01,560
confirming Hearthsteel as a
premium. I know, my God. As a premium

553
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,180
currency for housing
decorations. Data mining shows the

554
00:36:05,180 --> 00:36:08,300
in game shop's current
offerings are surprisingly limited.

555
00:36:08,620 --> 00:36:13,740
Out of 2,208 total housing
decor pieces in the Midnight Alpha,

556
00:36:14,060 --> 00:36:19,660
only 19, less than 1% are shop
exclusive. These include lion and

557
00:36:19,660 --> 00:36:24,940
wolf plushies and two themed
bundles, Spring cherry blossom and

558
00:36:24,940 --> 00:36:27,980
spring garden gnome sets
featuring items like chairs, fountains,

559
00:36:27,980 --> 00:36:32,210
wreaths, trees, gazebos and
lamps. It goes on to say the housing

560
00:36:32,210 --> 00:36:35,610
dashboard only displays 15
shop items. So far though it's still

561
00:36:35,610 --> 00:36:39,530
under development. Blizzard
has stated that only a small fraction

562
00:36:39,530 --> 00:36:43,370
of housing decor will be
purchasable and race or class based

563
00:36:43,370 --> 00:36:47,370
items will not be monetized.
Your thoughts?

564
00:36:48,650 --> 00:36:51,730
My thoughts are people should
put their torches out and put their

565
00:36:51,730 --> 00:36:54,170
pitchforks away and stop whining.

566
00:36:54,420 --> 00:36:55,620
Oh, coming in hot.

567
00:36:55,780 --> 00:36:56,900
Oh, here we go.

568
00:36:57,540 --> 00:37:00,780
Yeah, I'm coming in hot on
this one. And the reason being is

569
00:37:00,780 --> 00:37:07,300
look at the history of the
shop, the things that you can buy

570
00:37:07,620 --> 00:37:12,900
right now. You have to take a
certain dinosaur amount out of this

571
00:37:12,900 --> 00:37:20,580
discussion because that's an
anomaly. The almost one hundred dollar

572
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,880
mount that a lot of people bought.

573
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,560
Yeah, it's coming back. Did
you hear that? It's coming back.

574
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:29,440
Only in China.

575
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,080
Say that again. What about China?

576
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,960
It's coming back, but only on
the China servers. That's the word

577
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,000
on the street. Oh, you want to
go to China?

578
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:36,720
Dirty.

579
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,560
You want to go. You want to go
to abroad?

580
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:43,520
No, I'm, I'm gonna stay here.
But come on, I'm just sticking. I

581
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,720
mean if it came out again, I'd
probably buy it.

582
00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:46,480
Oh, okay.

583
00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:48,550
Anyway, get to my original point.

584
00:37:48,550 --> 00:37:49,270
All right, go ahead.

585
00:37:49,430 --> 00:37:53,270
Okay. If you look at the stuff
that's on the shop now, it's quite

586
00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:58,470
limited. It's not a massive
shop like a ton of other games have.

587
00:37:58,950 --> 00:38:03,190
There are some exclusive items
on there, but if you were to compare

588
00:38:03,190 --> 00:38:07,430
the items, even the exclusive
items that are on the shop now and

589
00:38:07,430 --> 00:38:10,870
have been for years, you know,
the Stuff that gets cycled through.

590
00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:15,980
Compare those items to the
amount of earnable items in the game.

591
00:38:16,460 --> 00:38:22,060
It's probably about 1%. Mm.
It's probably around there. So I

592
00:38:22,060 --> 00:38:27,460
don't see them changing this
trend because wow does not want to

593
00:38:27,460 --> 00:38:33,740
be known as a game that does
that. And I don't think that they

594
00:38:33,740 --> 00:38:38,100
are. There are certain things
that end up in the shop that upset

595
00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:41,540
other people because, because
they earned it in game. Or a super

596
00:38:41,700 --> 00:38:46,060
expensive item like a dinosaur
that has, you know, everything that

597
00:38:46,060 --> 00:38:50,540
you could possibly ever need
on a mount. But I don't think this

598
00:38:50,540 --> 00:38:54,300
is the, the trend that they're
going to start with housing. I think

599
00:38:54,300 --> 00:38:58,420
it's going to remain very
limited amount of items. They could

600
00:38:58,420 --> 00:39:03,140
be exclusive items. There
could be things that are seasonal

601
00:39:03,700 --> 00:39:09,130
and rotate in and out and I
think that is just fine. But a majority

602
00:39:09,130 --> 00:39:12,370
of the things that you're
going to earn for housing are going

603
00:39:12,370 --> 00:39:14,570
to be done with achievements
in game.

604
00:39:14,570 --> 00:39:17,770
That's what we wanted. That's
what we wanted. It is, it's exciting.

605
00:39:17,770 --> 00:39:22,370
You know, and I, we said this
a couple episodes ago, maybe three

606
00:39:22,370 --> 00:39:27,770
episodes at least. I really
feel like from the onset when we

607
00:39:27,770 --> 00:39:32,010
started seeing kind of the
curtain being slowly pulled back

608
00:39:32,980 --> 00:39:37,580
for the housing system, really
got a feel that every step they were

609
00:39:37,580 --> 00:39:41,180
taking with this system in
particular was very measured, you

610
00:39:41,180 --> 00:39:45,700
know, like that everything was
truly felt like years in development.

611
00:39:46,260 --> 00:39:51,220
It truly felt like they had a
grasp and I still have that same

612
00:39:51,220 --> 00:39:57,220
feeling that they have a good
grasp on what their community wants

613
00:39:57,460 --> 00:40:00,420
and what they don't want and
what would go over well and what

614
00:40:00,420 --> 00:40:03,220
would not go. Can you imagine
this was flip flopped. Let's say

615
00:40:03,220 --> 00:40:07,380
it was like 70, 30. Can you
imagine that? 7. 70%. You earned

616
00:40:07,380 --> 00:40:11,140
30% on the shop. Well, at that
point you're acting like some other

617
00:40:11,140 --> 00:40:14,980
MMOs on the market right now.
You know, like that's, that's.

618
00:40:14,980 --> 00:40:15,900
Yeah, that's a cash grab.

619
00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:18,620
That's a cash grab. But this
looks great. This is great.

620
00:40:18,860 --> 00:40:22,380
Yeah. And I think where, where
Blizzard is going to make their money

621
00:40:22,380 --> 00:40:28,410
is, is by making a good
system, period. And it's, it's obvious

622
00:40:28,410 --> 00:40:32,130
that this is a, this was a
massive undertaking. This has been.

623
00:40:32,290 --> 00:40:36,410
Housing in general has been
something that has been on the docket

624
00:40:36,410 --> 00:40:39,810
for a long time, talked about
for many years before any of it was

625
00:40:39,810 --> 00:40:43,610
teased or released. And they
had, they've been prepping for this

626
00:40:43,610 --> 00:40:49,210
system to be insane. And it
is, you know, by all accounts so

627
00:40:49,210 --> 00:40:53,860
far from what we've heard and
seen on, on YouTube and you know,

628
00:40:53,860 --> 00:40:56,340
there's been tons of people
that have gotten to to get in there

629
00:40:56,340 --> 00:40:59,900
and play with it. And I mean
there's housing associations now,

630
00:40:59,900 --> 00:41:03,500
homeowners associations out
there now. This system is being done.

631
00:41:03,660 --> 00:41:06,899
Right. So I think where the
money for Blizzard is going to be

632
00:41:06,899 --> 00:41:13,220
made is going to be not
necessarily in midnight, but it's

633
00:41:13,220 --> 00:41:17,470
going to be the amount of
people who are going to A come back

634
00:41:17,470 --> 00:41:21,230
to the game or B try the game
for the first time because they heard

635
00:41:21,230 --> 00:41:23,990
that wow's housing is
absolutely insane. There's going

636
00:41:23,990 --> 00:41:28,470
to be a large volume of
players coming to Azeroth because

637
00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:31,230
of the housing period and I
think they're doing it right.

638
00:41:31,550 --> 00:41:33,830
Yeah, there's going to be an
influx. There's going to be an influx

639
00:41:33,830 --> 00:41:36,750
of players and granted while
there wasn't official numbers put

640
00:41:36,750 --> 00:41:42,750
out, this happened. I'm trying
to remember what it was for specifically

641
00:41:43,380 --> 00:41:46,780
it was Warcraft related where
it was inadvertently stated that

642
00:41:46,780 --> 00:41:50,100
they have 9 million players
right now. I wish I could find that

643
00:41:50,180 --> 00:41:51,380
where that came from.

644
00:41:51,380 --> 00:41:55,900
However, even that spellular
we did a video on that.

645
00:41:55,900 --> 00:41:56,980
Oh, was that what it was?

646
00:41:57,460 --> 00:42:00,780
Yeah. Oh yeah, and it was from
Windows. I thought it was Windows

647
00:42:00,780 --> 00:42:01,060
Central.

648
00:42:01,060 --> 00:42:03,060
Windows sent. Was it?

649
00:42:03,060 --> 00:42:05,940
I thought it was Windows
Central put an article out about

650
00:42:06,020 --> 00:42:08,440
the actual numbers of Warcraft
players right now.

651
00:42:08,750 --> 00:42:11,470
Oh, he did cover that. I saw
it somewhere else though. I don't

652
00:42:11,470 --> 00:42:15,470
forget where I saw it at. But
yeah, anyway, yeah, so imagine that

653
00:42:15,470 --> 00:42:17,950
having even more of an influx
of players. You're gonna have people

654
00:42:17,950 --> 00:42:20,230
come back just to do. It's
gonna be great. It's gonna be great

655
00:42:20,230 --> 00:42:23,310
all around. I'm excited to
test it. Can't wait to not test it

656
00:42:23,310 --> 00:42:27,070
to experience it when it
releases. Yeah, check us out folks

657
00:42:27,070 --> 00:42:32,750
over@wowhead.com you.

658
00:42:32,750 --> 00:42:46,236
Can hear it in the wind. An
echo, a whisper, a calling home.

659
00:42:46,236 --> 00:42:46,581
It welcomes us not as
wanderers but as its kin. In search

660
00:42:46,581 --> 00:42:46,588
of a. Memory of what once was,
where purpose ignites.

661
00:43:11,490 --> 00:43:16,930
And then finally for the day,
Blizzcon passes are now on sale.

662
00:43:16,930 --> 00:43:20,930
If you are listening on
release day of this episode, November

663
00:43:20,930 --> 00:43:25,570
18th. Well, great news.
Blizzcon passes are out and about.

664
00:43:26,380 --> 00:43:30,100
Early access already happened
the past week but this two day event

665
00:43:30,100 --> 00:43:34,540
returns to Anaheim Convention
Center September 12th and 13th promising

666
00:43:34,540 --> 00:43:38,940
major game reveals, panels,
cosplay contests and world class

667
00:43:38,940 --> 00:43:43,140
esport competitions. Blitzcon
2026 will feature all the fan favorite

668
00:43:43,140 --> 00:43:46,820
experiences from the Blizzard
Arcade and community night to Darkmoon

669
00:43:46,820 --> 00:43:51,020
Fair and Blizzcon Charity
night benefiting Make a Wish Foundation.

670
00:43:51,100 --> 00:43:53,930
Blizzardhead is also confirmed
confirmed Enhanced accessibility,

671
00:43:54,170 --> 00:43:58,570
new Merch kiosks and expanded
career and inclusion events. Yeah,

672
00:43:58,570 --> 00:44:02,170
they're going to be reviewing.
They'll review your resume and they're

673
00:44:02,170 --> 00:44:03,850
going to help you there. So if
you're looking to get in the industry,

674
00:44:04,090 --> 00:44:06,730
they can help you do that.
Dude. Exciting times.

675
00:44:07,370 --> 00:44:13,210
It is certainly exciting
times. And. Okay, so it's at Anaheim

676
00:44:13,210 --> 00:44:18,250
Convention Center. Why is it.
It's just striking some kind of thought,

677
00:44:18,250 --> 00:44:21,340
maybe my mind. Oh, it's
probably because Anaheim Convention

678
00:44:21,340 --> 00:44:25,060
center and Disneyland and all
those other things are like 15 minutes

679
00:44:25,060 --> 00:44:25,540
from me.

680
00:44:26,740 --> 00:44:27,140
So.

681
00:44:27,140 --> 00:44:33,900
That being said, we have an
exciting announcement to make. Cue

682
00:44:33,900 --> 00:44:42,340
the Drum roll. The AMR team
will be at BlizzCon 2026. Yes.

683
00:44:43,620 --> 00:44:44,020
Heck, yeah.

684
00:44:44,330 --> 00:44:50,850
Yes. And yeah. So you're gonna
fly over from the. The. The frozen

685
00:44:50,850 --> 00:44:54,250
tundra, Indiana, baby. Yeah,
the frozen tundra.

686
00:44:55,690 --> 00:44:56,570
That's what we are.

687
00:44:56,730 --> 00:44:59,850
Right. Basically into the
surface of the sun at that particular

688
00:44:59,929 --> 00:45:00,490
time because.

689
00:45:00,490 --> 00:45:00,850
Perfect.

690
00:45:00,850 --> 00:45:01,730
When is this taking place?

691
00:45:01,730 --> 00:45:04,930
September. What'd it say?
September 12th and 13th.

692
00:45:04,930 --> 00:45:10,020
You can stop there. You can
stop when you said September because

693
00:45:10,900 --> 00:45:16,100
California burns that time of
year, so hopefully your plane can

694
00:45:16,100 --> 00:45:21,100
dodge all the smoke. But it's
going to be. It'll be hot here for

695
00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:21,380
sure.

696
00:45:21,860 --> 00:45:22,380
Perfect.

697
00:45:22,380 --> 00:45:24,740
So anyway, yeah, Jibs and I
are going to be. We're going to be

698
00:45:24,740 --> 00:45:26,820
there. I have a. I have a
little story to tell.

699
00:45:27,220 --> 00:45:27,700
Yeah.

700
00:45:27,780 --> 00:45:32,100
About the securing of the
tickets for the Gliz Gone on Early

701
00:45:32,100 --> 00:45:37,620
bird. So I was at work, but I
set an alarm for 9am because they

702
00:45:37,620 --> 00:45:45,000
were going on sale at 9am for
the early bird rate passes. 8:59

703
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:49,320
in the morning. I was
spamming. Refresh on the page. Spamming,

704
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:54,360
spamming, spamming. Boom. It
pops up. I was like, yes. So I got

705
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,320
our two tickets and then
there's all these add ons. So I start.

706
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,880
And the add ons were new to
me. I admit, I did not research it.

707
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,610
I didn't know anything about
the Darkmoon Fair. I didn't know

708
00:46:05,690 --> 00:46:10,690
anything about the Blizzcon
charity night. But I wanted to get

709
00:46:10,690 --> 00:46:14,210
the darkmoon Faire tickets. I
was like, let's do this. So I immediately

710
00:46:14,210 --> 00:46:16,930
click on the darkmoon Faire
thing and then saw the price of the

711
00:46:16,930 --> 00:46:19,810
charity thing and there was
another 500 a ticket. And I was like,

712
00:46:19,810 --> 00:46:25,170
nope, not doing that one.
Sorry, kid. I love you kids. I love

713
00:46:25,170 --> 00:46:28,490
the Make a Wish Foundation.
But yeah. Oh, ouch. That one was

714
00:46:28,490 --> 00:46:31,910
gonna hurt. So anyway, I
clicked the button real quick and

715
00:46:32,550 --> 00:46:36,750
it wouldn't let me advance.
And friends, this is a minute. It's

716
00:46:36,750 --> 00:46:42,070
9:01 at this point, 9. 01. And
it wouldn't let me advance. And I

717
00:46:42,070 --> 00:46:44,390
was trying to figure out why
it wouldn't let me advance. So I

718
00:46:44,390 --> 00:46:49,070
hit refresh. I had to put the
two tickets in my box again. And

719
00:46:49,070 --> 00:46:51,350
then I looked down because I
was just about to do the Darkmoon

720
00:46:51,350 --> 00:46:57,520
Faire. Sold out at 9:01 60
seconds. Yeah.

721
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:58,240
It was gone.

722
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,640
And thank God I was able to
get. Still able to get Early Bird

723
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,160
tickets. But we did get our
two tickets. Unfortunately, we won't

724
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:08,520
be going to the Darkmoon Fair
because apparently there was a virtual

725
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,720
line for that one. But anyway.
Yeah. And I don't know. I don't know

726
00:47:12,720 --> 00:47:16,320
what our plans are gonna be.
It's gonna be super fun. Jib's gonna

727
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,000
come out early. We're gonna
smoke cigars, drink some beer.

728
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,800
Oh, man. It's gonna be a good
time. We'll still get to go to Dark

729
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,610
Moon and we just won't have
the spiritual special after hours.

730
00:47:23,690 --> 00:47:27,170
So we'll get to. We'll still
get to see the fair. So it's not.

731
00:47:27,170 --> 00:47:28,090
Yeah, for sure.

732
00:47:28,250 --> 00:47:28,890
So there's that.

733
00:47:28,890 --> 00:47:30,210
Community night would have
been really cool.

734
00:47:30,210 --> 00:47:31,290
Oh, yeah. That'd be awesome.

735
00:47:32,090 --> 00:47:32,570
Anyway.

736
00:47:32,570 --> 00:47:35,730
But yeah. Yeah, I'm excited to
come out. This is both of our very

737
00:47:35,730 --> 00:47:38,929
first Blizzcon ever. It's
always been like a pipe dream for

738
00:47:38,929 --> 00:47:43,770
Cash and I. And it's all just
a bunch of pipe dreams, to be honest.

739
00:47:43,770 --> 00:47:48,370
This the show and then going
to Blizzcon itself, being able to

740
00:47:48,370 --> 00:47:52,040
meet so many community people.
I know there's people from the Guild.

741
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:57,200
We are in PollingAgro IRL.
They're gonna be there. I saw other

742
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,720
creators are gonna be there. I
mean, it's just gonna be a great

743
00:47:59,720 --> 00:48:03,720
time. And honestly, I can't
wait to meet so many people. I will

744
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,560
never, ever forget when you
sent me a picture, you were sitting

745
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,560
next to Gina Bruno, who is the
community manager at eso, at the

746
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:17,600
front row seat of their big
opening event. Their big. Like the.

747
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,430
The opener. I forget the name
what that's called. And then next

748
00:48:20,430 --> 00:48:23,710
to. To your left, to your
right was Gina. To your left was

749
00:48:23,790 --> 00:48:28,950
was Rich. Rich Lambert, the
creative director of Elder Scrolls

750
00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:31,630
Online at that time when we
were creating over there. And ever

751
00:48:31,710 --> 00:48:36,750
since then, I've always
dreamed of having a feeling, a moment

752
00:48:36,830 --> 00:48:40,230
just like that where I could
be at an opening, something like

753
00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:44,150
this. I've never forgotten it.
I've always wanted it. And now we're

754
00:48:44,150 --> 00:48:48,340
getting ready to do it and
would do it with so many people,

755
00:48:48,660 --> 00:48:50,860
so many of our peers. I can't wait.

756
00:48:50,860 --> 00:48:56,460
I can't wait to get drunk at
10:00am but, yeah, I mean, all that

757
00:48:56,460 --> 00:49:01,220
other stuff is cool, too.
Well, bro, I. I mean, I will say

758
00:49:01,220 --> 00:49:03,700
we'll be in the audience, but
I can't guarantee that Ian's going

759
00:49:03,700 --> 00:49:05,380
to come sit on my lap. No.

760
00:49:07,700 --> 00:49:08,500
Like, who are you?

761
00:49:09,300 --> 00:49:15,150
I know, like, Nut Kick will be
freaking blowing his whistle.

762
00:49:18,270 --> 00:49:21,710
Man. I just can't wait to be
there with all the community. It's

763
00:49:21,710 --> 00:49:26,670
going to be a heck of a time.
And, yeah, you know, I had something

764
00:49:26,990 --> 00:49:30,310
that we definitely need to
discuss, but there. There may be

765
00:49:30,310 --> 00:49:33,150
some fun things that we do
while we're there and details to

766
00:49:33,150 --> 00:49:36,710
come, because Tat Cash doesn't
even know the idea for it, but there's

767
00:49:36,710 --> 00:49:40,090
some things we need to talk
about. Great. Yeah. We're gonna have

768
00:49:40,090 --> 00:49:41,090
a good time, so.

769
00:49:41,250 --> 00:49:45,010
Yeah. And hey, if you have an
idea for something that we should

770
00:49:45,010 --> 00:49:45,290
do.

771
00:49:45,290 --> 00:49:46,210
Yeah, there you go.

772
00:49:46,450 --> 00:49:47,330
Send it to us.

773
00:49:47,330 --> 00:49:47,770
Yeah.

774
00:49:47,770 --> 00:49:49,490
Because we might just do it.

775
00:49:49,730 --> 00:49:50,250
Yeah.

776
00:49:50,250 --> 00:49:59,090
We're at the IDGAF stage of
our lives right now, I would imagine.

777
00:50:00,850 --> 00:50:01,490
Internally.

778
00:50:01,490 --> 00:50:01,890
Didn't.

779
00:50:04,020 --> 00:50:07,140
You had to say it internally,
didn't you, just to get those initials.

780
00:50:07,140 --> 00:50:10,860
I did, I did. Because normally
I just blurt it out, but yeah, I'm

781
00:50:10,860 --> 00:50:13,300
kind of at that stage in my
life where idgaf.

782
00:50:13,460 --> 00:50:15,940
So you only live once, man.

783
00:50:15,940 --> 00:50:16,580
Crazy stuff.

784
00:50:16,580 --> 00:50:16,980
Yeah.

785
00:50:17,700 --> 00:50:22,100
Did you hear about the guy? I
don't. It was at the last Blizzcon,

786
00:50:22,180 --> 00:50:26,740
the guy that dressed up like
Bran and followed the development

787
00:50:26,980 --> 00:50:30,430
team everywhere. Everywhere?

788
00:50:30,670 --> 00:50:31,390
Oh, no.

789
00:50:31,550 --> 00:50:32,590
On the show floor.

790
00:50:32,750 --> 00:50:33,150
No.

791
00:50:33,630 --> 00:50:37,550
Yes. And I. And I hope he was,
like, if they were, like, going to

792
00:50:37,550 --> 00:50:40,030
get food or something like
that, where he just, like, stepped

793
00:50:40,030 --> 00:50:42,190
right in front of him and
blocked him from grabbing the food,

794
00:50:43,150 --> 00:50:51,270
because that is brand 100. But
I don't aim to be irritating to anybody,

795
00:50:51,270 --> 00:50:52,590
but. Damn, that's funny.

796
00:50:52,750 --> 00:50:55,110
Oh, that's hilarious. Can you
imagine how that went? They walked

797
00:50:55,110 --> 00:50:56,590
in the bathroom. Don't go in there.

798
00:50:59,740 --> 00:51:00,780
Don't stand in.

799
00:51:03,980 --> 00:51:08,940
Oh, gosh. Anyway, folks, we
want to meet so many of you. If.

800
00:51:08,940 --> 00:51:13,980
If you can come, we would love
to meet you. It would just be amazing

801
00:51:13,980 --> 00:51:19,300
to see so many faces and just
as exciting for us to. To be there

802
00:51:19,300 --> 00:51:24,910
at Blizzcon to see the reveals
and to meet all of you. All right,

803
00:51:25,070 --> 00:51:26,110
you ready for Snark?

804
00:51:32,590 --> 00:51:33,950
Snark online.

805
00:51:39,790 --> 00:51:42,030
Why'd you lean to the left
when that did that?

806
00:51:42,590 --> 00:51:44,590
Because I was trying to mimic snark.

807
00:51:44,750 --> 00:51:46,190
Are you, like, pseudo farting?

808
00:51:46,270 --> 00:51:48,470
Yeah, I was gonna try, but you
know what?

809
00:51:48,470 --> 00:51:50,350
They say, you know, you gotta
be careful about that.

810
00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:51,600
So far after 40.

811
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,680
No, no, that's right. Well,
that's true. Beyond 32. So, you know,

812
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,040
you just gotta. You gotta
slowly roll there.

813
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,560
I was trying to lip. Trying to
lip sync.

814
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:00,480
Oh, that's what it was.

815
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,800
Snark fart. Okay, don't do
that. Hey, we gotta take a break.

816
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:06,240
I gotta be right back.

817
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,000
Oh, my gosh.

818
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,480
Oh, friends, this week. This
is gonna be a fun one. This week

819
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,290
we have a really good segment,
and I think we're both kind of excited

820
00:52:17,290 --> 00:52:19,890
to talk about it, but the
segment for the week that Snark popped

821
00:52:19,890 --> 00:52:24,050
out is the Wheel of Hot Takes.
This is a new one.

822
00:52:24,370 --> 00:52:25,090
Here we go.

823
00:52:25,250 --> 00:52:30,490
We haven't done this one yet,
and this. This is a big topic, and

824
00:52:30,490 --> 00:52:35,330
we're gonna get right into it.
But our topic for the week is which

825
00:52:35,330 --> 00:52:39,170
is better, Classic Wow or
retail wow?

826
00:52:39,250 --> 00:52:40,210
Here we go.

827
00:52:40,450 --> 00:52:44,020
Oh, my gosh. You are just
lighting a fire.

828
00:52:44,340 --> 00:52:44,980
I know.

829
00:52:44,980 --> 00:52:47,140
And pouring gasoline all over it.

830
00:52:47,620 --> 00:52:48,820
That's what I do.

831
00:52:48,820 --> 00:52:56,340
Oh, my gosh. All right, let's
do it. All right. Oh, my God.

832
00:52:57,300 --> 00:53:01,940
We just don't know who's gonna
start, because this. I don't know.

833
00:53:02,100 --> 00:53:04,980
This could. Next week, this
could be a classic wow show.

834
00:53:05,380 --> 00:53:08,740
No, you never know. I don't
think it will be. I think I do know.

835
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,480
Yeah. Just because I'll fly
all the way to Indiana and flick

836
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:15,240
you and your nuts.

837
00:53:15,240 --> 00:53:19,240
Yeah. I won't let you leave
either. Pseudo kidnap my best friend.

838
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,720
Oh, you're gonna neck hug me, bro.

839
00:53:21,720 --> 00:53:28,520
And keep me there. Oh, my
gosh. All right, how do we want to

840
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:28,920
do this?

841
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,240
I don't know. Maybe we. Let's
talk classic wow first.

842
00:53:33,240 --> 00:53:34,320
Okay. All right.

843
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:39,040
Talk about the things that we
think are good, good and bad about

844
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,920
Classic Wow. And then we can
do the same for retail. But we are.

845
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,360
We need to. We'll have to vote.

846
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:44,000
Okay.

847
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,200
We're gonna need to vote where
we land at the end.

848
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:47,920
Okay.

849
00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:54,000
Okay. So you have. You've
always been a fan of Classic Wow?

850
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,240
Always? I have, yes.

851
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,640
Okay, then you should kick
this off.

852
00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:02,600
You want me to do, like,
defense things of Defense of classic

853
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,270
or, like, my thoughts on it or.

854
00:54:05,670 --> 00:54:09,470
I want whatever is foremost in
your brain right now regarding Classic

855
00:54:09,470 --> 00:54:09,790
Wow.

856
00:54:09,790 --> 00:54:15,190
Foremost in my brain about
Classic Warcraft is that I love,

857
00:54:16,390 --> 00:54:20,830
with an underline, embolden,
italicize, raise the font 50 characters

858
00:54:20,830 --> 00:54:25,830
above everything else. I love
that Classic Wow really embodies

859
00:54:25,830 --> 00:54:33,280
the RPG of mmorpg. That is the
bread and butter I think of Classic

860
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:38,600
at its heart is and it's a,
it's several things that make that

861
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,800
happen, that facilitate that
feeling within classic Warcraft itself.

862
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:50,080
But to me, classic really does
a great job embodying the role play

863
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,800
game aspect of an MMORPG.

864
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:59,200
I have to agree. I have to
agree 100%. And this is going to

865
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:05,920
be off brand off character for
me because we, we boast on the show

866
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:13,039
about how we love story and
how we embrace nostalgia. Right.

867
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,640
Because there's a lot of it
when it comes to World of Warcraft

868
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:20,320
as a whole. It's going to make
me sound and look like an idiot.

869
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,240
But when you, you know, when
you have a platform and you can shout

870
00:55:23,240 --> 00:55:27,260
it out to the world that
you're dumb and you're shallow, when

871
00:55:27,260 --> 00:55:31,460
you can prep, you might as
well just do it. So I agree with

872
00:55:31,460 --> 00:55:37,380
what you're saying about
Classic Wow having all of the elements

873
00:55:37,460 --> 00:55:40,819
of a classic rpg, which we've,
we've all grown to love.

874
00:55:40,900 --> 00:55:41,700
Absolutely.

875
00:55:42,100 --> 00:55:52,350
But it looks like hammered
dog. I'll take the hate mail. I'll

876
00:55:52,350 --> 00:55:56,830
take the hate mail. Oh, I
could not play Runescape for. As

877
00:55:56,830 --> 00:56:01,910
an, as amazing as the game is,
I could not play classic Runescape

878
00:56:02,310 --> 00:56:05,590
because it looked so terrible.

879
00:56:06,150 --> 00:56:07,750
It's got a classic charm.

880
00:56:08,470 --> 00:56:15,470
It 100% does. 100% does. And
so does Classic Wow. It has a lot

881
00:56:15,470 --> 00:56:16,070
of charm.

882
00:56:16,070 --> 00:56:16,630
Yeah.

883
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,440
But I can't get over the graphics.

884
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:21,520
Isn't it funny?

885
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:22,080
Can't.

886
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,960
Isn't it funny? When that game
launched, did you even see that at

887
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,120
all? Of course not. No,
because it was.

888
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,520
Because that was. Yeah, it was
current, it was fun. It was whimsical

889
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:33,080
at the time.

890
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,920
Yeah. It's always a crazy
thing. Not to sidestep, but it's

891
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:40,520
always a crazy thing. Whenever
you think, like you have these memories

892
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,950
of games that you loved and
you enjoyed. For instance, I'll say

893
00:56:43,950 --> 00:56:47,310
Twisted Metal for me from
PlayStation. In my head, it looks

894
00:56:47,310 --> 00:56:49,670
great. I know if I go back to
that thing, it's gonna look like

895
00:56:49,670 --> 00:56:53,470
an eight bit mess, you know,
so. But it's, it's kind of funny

896
00:56:53,470 --> 00:56:57,430
how, you know, with Warcraft
even 20 years later, you. We've grown

897
00:56:57,430 --> 00:57:00,230
so accustomed to what great
graphics are now and that sort of

898
00:57:00,230 --> 00:57:03,950
thing and you know, like 4090s
and all that stuff and you look back

899
00:57:03,950 --> 00:57:07,150
at it, classic experience and
something like that is what, you

900
00:57:07,150 --> 00:57:08,150
know, sticks out to you.

901
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,640
I know, and that's why I'm
embarrassed. I'm happy to share it

902
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,680
with people, but it is the
truth for me. It is the God's honest

903
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:21,440
truth for Me that I have a
really hard time with the Data Graphics.

904
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:27,640
The RPG aspect of the game is
incredible. It is 100% what it was

905
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:33,560
in 2004 when it released and
when I played it happily and almost

906
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:38,320
to the detriment of my
marriage. Almost to the detriment

907
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,040
of my marriage. I played World
of Warcraft. Oh, you were one of

908
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:47,400
those.0506. Luckily my wife is
a saint and she's amazing and she

909
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:52,800
understands how gaming is a
mental release for me compared to

910
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,320
my normal life. Had to take a
short break because there was a truck

911
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,040
backing up outside and I
wanted to avoid having to go out

912
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:05,430
and flatten four tires,
possibly six. Okay, all right, back

913
00:58:05,430 --> 00:58:11,750
at it. So yeah, gaming in
general, specifically MMOs and RPGs

914
00:58:11,750 --> 00:58:15,750
are. That is my mental
release. 100% from the woes of the

915
00:58:15,750 --> 00:58:20,110
world. I turn it off. I forget
about anything that's going on in

916
00:58:20,110 --> 00:58:24,350
my life or in the surrounding
world when I play games. And classic

917
00:58:24,350 --> 00:58:31,310
wow. Had. Has the ability to
do that because you get. You can

918
00:58:31,310 --> 00:58:35,830
get lost in your character.
You have to earn everything that

919
00:58:36,470 --> 00:58:38,350
the initial earning of your mount.

920
00:58:38,350 --> 00:58:38,830
Yeah.

921
00:58:38,830 --> 00:58:44,430
Getting enough gold to do so,
not having the modern conveniences

922
00:58:44,430 --> 00:58:49,350
that we now have in retail are
all very, very special.

923
00:58:49,990 --> 00:58:50,550
Yep.

924
00:58:51,190 --> 00:58:57,520
I have a friend that plays
hardcore and I could not see myself

925
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,440
doing that because I do fall
in love with my characters for sure.

926
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,200
That type of thing is very,
very enjoyable to me. So to see my

927
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:13,000
character die would be
disastrous for me. And it's funny

928
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:19,360
because he was doing good. He
was 60 and raiding on hardcore and

929
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,800
he'd send me all the
achievements and stuff they were

930
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:26,080
making. And the tank made one
mistake and wiped their entire. Their

931
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:30,080
entire group a couple of
months back. And he sent me this.

932
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:35,200
He sent me a screenshot of all
like his guild is dead on the floor.

933
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:39,920
He's like, oh, we finally
died. And I was like, no way. And

934
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,680
he said, yep. And then he sent
me another picture of his brand new

935
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:50,110
character at level one. I was
like, nope, that is not for me. Did

936
00:59:50,110 --> 00:59:55,950
not do that. But you know, it.
It goes to show the level of commitment

937
00:59:55,950 --> 00:59:59,550
that a lot of people have to
the classic experience. And I. And

938
00:59:59,550 --> 01:00:01,870
I love that. And I've been
trying to get him into retail forever.

939
01:00:01,870 --> 01:00:04,630
And he's like, I just don't
think I can do it. Because he loves

940
01:00:04,630 --> 01:00:09,110
a classic experience so much.
So for me, honestly, it, it does

941
01:00:09,350 --> 01:00:13,510
come down to the visual
appeal. Although we have. We've played

942
01:00:13,990 --> 01:00:15,190
plenty of classic.

943
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:16,880
Oh yeah. Yeah.

944
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,320
And I really did have a good
time with all of the things that

945
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,400
you are talking about.

946
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:23,320
Yeah.

947
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:29,960
You know, there's this sense
of discovery in the world and a lot

948
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,960
of that comes from not having
the ability to fly right away.

949
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:37,840
Oh, yeah, man. Yeah. Yes.
Yeah. And that's another hot topic,

950
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:42,300
man. Is that a hot one? But
yeah, that's definitely when you

951
01:00:42,300 --> 01:00:47,300
can slow down. And I don't
think people realize just how impactful

952
01:00:48,580 --> 01:00:53,220
that, like how that can change
on a moment, your gameplay voluntarily

953
01:00:53,220 --> 01:00:55,900
go through a zone. If you're
listening right now, like, challenge

954
01:00:55,900 --> 01:00:58,860
yourself to go through a zone
that you can fly through on just

955
01:00:58,860 --> 01:01:02,900
a mount that you can't fly on
and see how you take in the world

956
01:01:02,900 --> 01:01:06,970
differently. See how things
stand out to you. See how you, the,

957
01:01:07,130 --> 01:01:11,530
the design of these zones
sticks out to you. It's. It really

958
01:01:11,610 --> 01:01:14,890
does change you. It really does.

959
01:01:15,050 --> 01:01:18,810
Yeah. And you couldn't. And
there's still some semblance of this

960
01:01:18,810 --> 01:01:22,370
in, In Warcraft where you,
you, you have to finish a zone. You

961
01:01:22,370 --> 01:01:27,210
have to stick with a zone to
finish that thing before you can

962
01:01:27,210 --> 01:01:29,930
move on to another zone.
Because if you go to another zone.

963
01:01:29,930 --> 01:01:32,250
We just talked about it last
week when we were talking about the

964
01:01:32,250 --> 01:01:38,340
wetlands. I would make the run
to either Stormwind or Ironforge

965
01:01:38,340 --> 01:01:43,700
on a relatively new character.
And I was in fear for my life.

966
01:01:43,940 --> 01:01:44,460
Yeah.

967
01:01:44,460 --> 01:01:48,979
Running through the wetlands
because of particularly the croc.

968
01:01:48,980 --> 01:01:51,180
Crocodilisks. Crocodiles.

969
01:01:51,180 --> 01:01:51,460
Yeah.

970
01:01:51,460 --> 01:01:53,940
Crocodile type creatures. And
the raptors.

971
01:01:54,020 --> 01:01:54,540
Yep.

972
01:01:54,540 --> 01:01:56,980
And they would path over the road.

973
01:01:57,140 --> 01:01:57,540
Oh.

974
01:01:57,540 --> 01:02:01,010
So you'd have to like, you
gotta like run up to the aggro range

975
01:02:01,010 --> 01:02:03,850
and stop and just wait for
this thing to meander across the

976
01:02:03,850 --> 01:02:05,010
road before you can keep going.

977
01:02:05,170 --> 01:02:05,730
Yep.

978
01:02:05,970 --> 01:02:12,650
And brought a lot of nostalgia
back when you, when you have to do

979
01:02:12,650 --> 01:02:16,330
that. So you need to finish
the zone. You become in love with

980
01:02:16,330 --> 01:02:20,970
the zone and the story that's
being told in that zone and all the

981
01:02:20,970 --> 01:02:23,810
things you need to do to
progress your character. And then

982
01:02:23,810 --> 01:02:26,250
by the time you're close,
you're like, man, I gotta be getting

983
01:02:26,250 --> 01:02:29,350
close because I'm. I'm kind of
sick of this zone. Now you move on

984
01:02:29,350 --> 01:02:33,070
to a brand new zone and that
is the classic experience.

985
01:02:33,550 --> 01:02:34,110
Yeah.

986
01:02:34,190 --> 01:02:39,870
You can't take that away from
the classic experience. The game

987
01:02:40,670 --> 01:02:43,870
felt. The world felt dangerous.

988
01:02:44,030 --> 01:02:44,590
Yeah.

989
01:02:44,670 --> 01:02:51,710
It felt alive. And it felt
like you are not, you are not prepared

990
01:02:51,710 --> 01:02:53,990
for the next zone until you are.

991
01:02:53,990 --> 01:02:54,390
Yeah.

992
01:02:54,390 --> 01:02:56,750
Right. Every piece of gear
meant something.

993
01:02:56,910 --> 01:03:00,750
Oh, yeah. Yeah. And so to
class identity. Class identity was

994
01:03:00,750 --> 01:03:05,790
very prevalent in classic. It
is not. I shouldn't say was it is

995
01:03:05,950 --> 01:03:10,830
it's very prevalent. You're.
You don't have everything. Not everybody

996
01:03:10,830 --> 01:03:16,030
has everything. And I still to
this day love that even when I'm

997
01:03:16,030 --> 01:03:22,630
in retail playing. I still
love the notion that not every class

998
01:03:22,870 --> 01:03:25,110
should have everything kind of
thing. You know what I mean? That

999
01:03:25,190 --> 01:03:29,670
your class identity holds its
importance because of what you bring

1000
01:03:30,070 --> 01:03:33,830
to the group, what you bring
to your guild and. Or your raid team

1001
01:03:33,830 --> 01:03:38,230
or it could be soon to be
housing team, you know, like, it's

1002
01:03:38,230 --> 01:03:43,030
just it. The class identity is
very, very present in Classic.

1003
01:03:43,030 --> 01:03:48,510
Yeah. And it, it really does
bring the power of the trinity.

1004
01:03:48,670 --> 01:03:50,350
Oh yeah. Oh gosh.

1005
01:03:50,350 --> 01:03:54,110
To gaming. It did that very,
very well. Like if you're going to.

1006
01:03:54,110 --> 01:03:58,150
Into an area you didn't have
all of the utility that you have

1007
01:03:58,150 --> 01:04:01,949
now in, in retail and the
ability to survive. Like not everybody

1008
01:04:01,949 --> 01:04:02,990
had a heel.

1009
01:04:03,070 --> 01:04:03,430
Right.

1010
01:04:03,430 --> 01:04:06,110
So you needed to bring a
healer with you if you were right,

1011
01:04:06,110 --> 01:04:09,710
if you were going into
something super dangerous. But I,

1012
01:04:09,710 --> 01:04:13,240
I just, I remember those
times. I remember, you know, tweaking

1013
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:14,800
characters out way back then.

1014
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:15,680
Oh man.

1015
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:20,600
That's where you would keep
your character from leveling to.

1016
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:24,240
You just keep like a level 19
and you would go through, you know,

1017
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:28,319
Razorfriend Crawl or whatever
to try and get this certain chess

1018
01:04:28,319 --> 01:04:31,040
piece, you know, and if it
would drop, you're like, oh my God,

1019
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,000
he finally dropped. Now you
have a blue chest piece and you can

1020
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:39,120
go into PvP and just whoop
everyone's ass. Super fun stuff,

1021
01:04:39,570 --> 01:04:44,610
right. And, and that large in
part has gone away with the modern

1022
01:04:44,610 --> 01:04:50,730
conveniences that we have of
retail. So that's, that's kind of

1023
01:04:50,730 --> 01:04:55,930
where. It's where I land. I
definitely. And I'll summarize when,

1024
01:04:55,930 --> 01:05:00,650
after we, you know, talk about
retail a little bit. But for me it

1025
01:05:00,650 --> 01:05:05,460
is the biggest positive is
exactly what you said. It's that

1026
01:05:05,460 --> 01:05:10,860
true role playing game feel
where you're having to earn everything

1027
01:05:11,020 --> 01:05:15,260
with a huge splash of
nostalgia. That's definitely there.

1028
01:05:16,060 --> 01:05:22,420
But for me, for making it my
main game, it really comes down to

1029
01:05:22,420 --> 01:05:26,580
visuals for me. And I realize
how shallow Hal that is. Dude, I

1030
01:05:26,580 --> 01:05:33,070
totally realize it. But at the
same time, I think retail has my

1031
01:05:33,070 --> 01:05:33,350
heart.

1032
01:05:33,670 --> 01:05:36,510
Yeah, no, no, that's. That's
understandable. Like, and everyone's

1033
01:05:36,510 --> 01:05:40,390
going to feel different about
that. That's a, that is oddly enough

1034
01:05:40,470 --> 01:05:43,790
a huge line that is drawn
whenever people talk about, you know,

1035
01:05:43,790 --> 01:05:47,350
like, what could Classic plus
look like for from Blizzard now?

1036
01:05:47,590 --> 01:05:51,950
And it comes down to that. You
always see it in every post, updated

1037
01:05:51,950 --> 01:05:57,360
visuals or toggle option for
visuals. And there's a very. It seems

1038
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:01,280
just again bird's eye view.
I'm not really involved in those

1039
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,560
conversations. I don't really
look at them with through a microscope,

1040
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:08,000
but it really seems like
there's a line drawn where people

1041
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,760
are like absolutely against
it. Keep everything 100 pure to the

1042
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:15,120
experience that it was. And
then those who are looking or interested

1043
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:19,400
in some changes, some
modernizations to where it still

1044
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:23,430
maintains that the. The
original experience with some tweaks

1045
01:06:23,590 --> 01:06:24,790
of 2025.

1046
01:06:25,190 --> 01:06:29,470
Warning Nostalgia levels
exceeding safe thresholds. Recommend

1047
01:06:29,470 --> 01:06:32,550
hydration and possibly therapy.

1048
01:06:32,870 --> 01:06:39,190
Fast forward to 2025, friends.
We are now playing retail. Obviously

1049
01:06:39,190 --> 01:06:45,030
fans of retail because we have
a weekly podcast revolving around

1050
01:06:45,190 --> 01:06:48,270
all things retail. We don't
mind talking all the other aspects.

1051
01:06:48,270 --> 01:06:50,700
I'm sure at some point we'll
talk about. We'll talk Hearthstone

1052
01:06:50,700 --> 01:06:51,060
as well.

1053
01:06:51,060 --> 01:06:51,820
Oh my gosh.

1054
01:06:51,820 --> 01:06:54,620
I love Hearthstone and all the
other games. Yeah, you know, I'm

1055
01:06:54,620 --> 01:06:58,700
sure we will because we are
fans of Blizzard, but our shtick

1056
01:06:58,780 --> 01:07:08,140
is retail. World of Warcraft
for me it is. I'll just start with

1057
01:07:08,860 --> 01:07:16,640
the low hanging fruit. Visuals
are fantastic. Really enjoying the

1058
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:20,680
visuals of the, of the new
parts of the world. I still get that

1059
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:24,160
dose of classic and vanilla
when I'm, you know, when I'm in the

1060
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,720
older parts of the world or
you got to go there for a quest or

1061
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:28,880
something, you know, for a
newer quest. A lot of times you get

1062
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:32,240
sent back to the old zones and
you can see that they're, they're

1063
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:36,840
quite dated. But it's no
different in any other long standing

1064
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:42,506
MMO that has modern expansions
and expansions from, you know, 10,

1065
01:07:42,614 --> 01:07:44,300
12 years ago, 15 years ago.

1066
01:07:44,300 --> 01:07:47,740
Okay, so hang on a second,
hang on a second. So you feel as

1067
01:07:47,740 --> 01:07:52,860
though for you personally you
can do with the dated area visuals,

1068
01:07:53,100 --> 01:07:56,820
you can do with the zones
looking dated. But when it comes

1069
01:07:56,820 --> 01:07:59,900
to your character, that's
where you draw the line.

1070
01:07:59,900 --> 01:08:01,980
That is a very astute observation.

1071
01:08:02,140 --> 01:08:02,700
Okay.

1072
01:08:02,700 --> 01:08:07,020
Because. Yes. Yeah, the. And
the answer is yes. And again, like

1073
01:08:07,020 --> 01:08:11,090
I realize how bad that sounds.

1074
01:08:11,090 --> 01:08:13,330
No, it's fine. It's fine. It's fine.

1075
01:08:13,330 --> 01:08:14,530
I'm not alone.

1076
01:08:14,690 --> 01:08:17,090
No, you're not. No, you're
not. You're not alone. And that's

1077
01:08:17,090 --> 01:08:20,210
okay. I just wanted a clar.
Clarification to see where you're.

1078
01:08:20,210 --> 01:08:21,090
Where you landed.

1079
01:08:21,170 --> 01:08:25,490
Dude. I like having a cloak on.

1080
01:08:25,810 --> 01:08:26,330
Yeah.

1081
01:08:26,330 --> 01:08:31,970
That has nice shading. It
flows and it gives me my character

1082
01:08:31,970 --> 01:08:36,499
aesthetic of the, of the
character that I want to play. I

1083
01:08:36,499 --> 01:08:41,339
love having the earth tones
and having the option to grind or

1084
01:08:41,339 --> 01:08:44,699
buy stuff that has earth tones
in it because I feel like that is.

1085
01:08:44,699 --> 01:08:50,779
I like that my druid wears
earth tones and a cloak and has a

1086
01:08:50,779 --> 01:08:55,459
really good looking, you know,
simple wooden staff that looks like

1087
01:08:55,459 --> 01:09:01,060
it's from nature. I like being
able to change that and have him

1088
01:09:01,060 --> 01:09:04,780
wear some other type of
adventuring clothes or if it's the

1089
01:09:04,780 --> 01:09:09,060
wintertime, transmogging him
to something that is more wintry

1090
01:09:09,060 --> 01:09:12,740
and looks aesthetically
pleasing. It's a big part of my gameplay.

1091
01:09:12,980 --> 01:09:16,940
So for me, I'm comfortable
with that. And obviously I'm comfortable

1092
01:09:16,940 --> 01:09:20,860
with it because I've admitted
might be a fault, but I do admit

1093
01:09:20,860 --> 01:09:24,300
that that's okay. I'm not
judging, not live on the.

1094
01:09:24,300 --> 01:09:25,860
Air nor off of it.

1095
01:09:27,659 --> 01:09:33,099
You're such a good friend.
Okay, so anyway, now that I've acted

1096
01:09:33,099 --> 01:09:39,259
like a grandpa, I think that
the accessibility that retail has

1097
01:09:39,819 --> 01:09:43,819
gone down, the modern
conveniences that have been added

1098
01:09:44,619 --> 01:09:49,219
are a blessing and a curse.
And they're a blessing because, yes,

1099
01:09:49,219 --> 01:09:53,940
it makes things easier. And
I'm talking things like, like the

1100
01:09:53,940 --> 01:10:00,820
dungeon finder, raid finder.
Being able to, you know, being able

1101
01:10:00,820 --> 01:10:06,340
to get into groups very, very
quickly is a nice modern convenience.

1102
01:10:07,060 --> 01:10:15,300
However, the cross server
play, the steamrolling dungeons,

1103
01:10:16,340 --> 01:10:23,890
the ability to. Or the
inability like nobody puts groups

1104
01:10:23,890 --> 01:10:26,690
together anymore outside of
the raid finder unless like they're

1105
01:10:26,690 --> 01:10:29,450
with their friends in a
discord, which is, which is fine.

1106
01:10:29,770 --> 01:10:35,850
But it does remove some of the
charm from retail. Wow. It removes

1107
01:10:35,850 --> 01:10:39,730
that. Those experiences that
you used to have where you're, you

1108
01:10:39,730 --> 01:10:42,970
know, you're sitting at the
summoning stone trying to put a group

1109
01:10:42,970 --> 01:10:49,330
together to run Deadminds, you
know, that was really cool when you

1110
01:10:49,330 --> 01:10:52,570
got to do that. And when you,
when you finally did get into a group,

1111
01:10:53,130 --> 01:11:01,450
you had a sense of commitment
to that group. I mean, am I, am I

1112
01:11:01,450 --> 01:11:04,330
wrong there? Like you wanted
to see it through.

1113
01:11:04,650 --> 01:11:05,970
Because that's very well said.

1114
01:11:05,970 --> 01:11:08,850
You took the time to put it
together. You have this sense of

1115
01:11:08,850 --> 01:11:12,600
commitment to, to finish this
thing with these people. You still

1116
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:16,240
ran into jerks, but at the
same time it was harder to put those

1117
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:19,160
groups together. So you lose a
little bit of that. And that's a

1118
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,920
modern convenience. Flying
100% modern convenience. And we talked

1119
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:29,280
about that. If you couldn't
fly everywhere in the game all the

1120
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:34,600
time and get from point A to
point B super quickly, you lose the

1121
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:38,970
scale of the world. You really
do. When you could just like zone

1122
01:11:38,970 --> 01:11:41,890
someplace and don't have to
make a long run. And there's still

1123
01:11:41,890 --> 01:11:46,130
some aspects of retail where
you still do it's it might be a long

1124
01:11:46,130 --> 01:11:51,730
flight or it might be a long
run. Some of those are still there,

1125
01:11:52,290 --> 01:11:57,170
but for the most part they're
gone. And that does also take away

1126
01:11:57,970 --> 01:12:04,010
some of that charm. So it's a
balancing act in these new more efficient

1127
01:12:04,010 --> 01:12:08,370
ways to navigate the world and
navigate the content that you want

1128
01:12:08,370 --> 01:12:12,610
to get into. It's added the
speed to it. And my personal opinion

1129
01:12:12,610 --> 01:12:17,330
is, you know, in our digital
age where we have the answers to

1130
01:12:17,330 --> 01:12:21,970
nearly everything in the palm
of our hand in the form of a. It's

1131
01:12:21,970 --> 01:12:27,460
not even just a phone. It's a
phone, a gps, a computer, a search

1132
01:12:27,460 --> 01:12:29,620
engine. It's everything.

1133
01:12:29,700 --> 01:12:30,100
Yep.

1134
01:12:30,100 --> 01:12:32,020
And it's in your hand at all times.

1135
01:12:32,180 --> 01:12:32,740
Yeah.

1136
01:12:32,740 --> 01:12:38,740
And people have become used
to. Society has become used to instant

1137
01:12:38,740 --> 01:12:44,500
satisfaction, instant answers
where just a mere 15 years ago, a

1138
01:12:44,500 --> 01:12:49,380
mere 20 years ago, it wasn't
that way. You had to work for things,

1139
01:12:49,940 --> 01:12:53,270
still had to look some things
up. You might have to go look at

1140
01:12:53,270 --> 01:12:57,910
microfiche at the library now
I'm really a grandpa because nobody

1141
01:12:57,910 --> 01:13:01,990
in our listener base knows
what microfiche is. But what I'm

1142
01:13:01,990 --> 01:13:05,310
saying is that modern
conveniences have sped everything

1143
01:13:05,310 --> 01:13:09,270
up for us and we've become
accustomed to it. So the conveniences

1144
01:13:09,270 --> 01:13:15,750
of a game like this in the
state that retail. Wow Is have spoiled

1145
01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:16,030
us.

1146
01:13:16,910 --> 01:13:20,860
I think that there's. Man, you
hit a lot of things that are, you

1147
01:13:20,860 --> 01:13:26,580
know, really worth unpacking.
I think for me when it comes to everything

1148
01:13:26,580 --> 01:13:32,180
with, with retail, the
conveniences, the today's conveniences

1149
01:13:33,060 --> 01:13:37,380
and this is a hundred percent
probably one sided and, and very.

1150
01:13:38,740 --> 01:13:42,220
What's. What's the selfish.
It's. I'm saying this selfishly.

1151
01:13:42,220 --> 01:13:48,000
Okay. Every. The modern
conveniences in Warcraft fit my life

1152
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:54,600
right now so perfectly. A year
ago I never would have seen that

1153
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:58,840
coming. You know, like just
the, the conveniences itself. Yes.

1154
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,160
There's some things I wish
that it didn't. That didn't give

1155
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:05,200
you like I wish I could go to
the trainer and get my skills. I

1156
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:09,320
wish I could keep going to the
mount person to buy my mount and

1157
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:11,800
train. Because that's like a
moment right. Like you've hit a certain

1158
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:15,430
level, you can go do the. I
still love and wish that that was

1159
01:14:15,430 --> 01:14:20,230
in retail. Like just little
things like that. But overall the

1160
01:14:20,310 --> 01:14:24,310
conveniences are the things
that really fit my life now. Being

1161
01:14:24,310 --> 01:14:28,310
a father, a husband, you know,
just like you mortgage like, you

1162
01:14:28,310 --> 01:14:34,430
know like all this show you
grew up playing. Wow. And you grew

1163
01:14:34,430 --> 01:14:41,100
up like. And as those
conveniences in itself that are some

1164
01:14:41,100 --> 01:14:45,860
of the ways that Warcraft fits
me so perfectly. And to go off some

1165
01:14:45,860 --> 01:14:49,820
of the other things that you
said. Yeah, I do. I do wish some

1166
01:14:49,820 --> 01:14:53,580
of the things were not as
convenient, you know, that were a

1167
01:14:53,580 --> 01:14:57,220
little bit more towards.
Geared towards the RPG side of things.

1168
01:14:58,420 --> 01:15:02,020
Because I'll be honest, like
playing my warlock, I want to use

1169
01:15:02,020 --> 01:15:06,030
my summoning spell, you know,
cuz like that's a big thing, you

1170
01:15:06,030 --> 01:15:10,190
know, like the. At least it
felt like it used to be. Granted

1171
01:15:10,190 --> 01:15:14,630
I'm a warlock newbie, so
forgive me if like maybe this is,

1172
01:15:14,870 --> 01:15:18,390
maybe there's a way it's still
really impactful but because of the

1173
01:15:18,390 --> 01:15:22,310
cooldown of your hearthstone
and, and some of the portals, depending

1174
01:15:22,310 --> 01:15:25,670
on where you're at, it kind of
like I feel like I don't know where

1175
01:15:25,670 --> 01:15:29,790
I could use this in a way that
really is beneficial as though, as

1176
01:15:29,790 --> 01:15:32,950
if it's really needed anymore
kind of thing. Now granted there's

1177
01:15:32,950 --> 01:15:35,270
other things you can do, you
know, like I can give, give out my

1178
01:15:35,270 --> 01:15:38,630
little fel cookies, you know,
I bake for you and a little ding

1179
01:15:38,710 --> 01:15:43,230
and at 400 degrees for 18
minutes and everyone takes them and

1180
01:15:43,230 --> 01:15:48,470
everyone's happy. So. But
overall, like it really is two different

1181
01:15:48,550 --> 01:15:53,590
games in two different eras.
Right now we live in a TikTok era

1182
01:15:53,830 --> 01:15:58,870
where everyone's attention
span is so minute and everyone is

1183
01:15:58,870 --> 01:16:03,630
so overloaded with so much
media that they don't have the patience

1184
01:16:03,870 --> 01:16:08,670
or the realization that if
they slowed down may and took away

1185
01:16:08,670 --> 01:16:11,510
some things, maybe that would
help them or maybe they would find

1186
01:16:11,510 --> 01:16:15,750
a different joy in the game or
something like that. But we, we really

1187
01:16:15,750 --> 01:16:20,590
do live in a world where
people don't have long attention

1188
01:16:20,590 --> 01:16:26,560
spans like they used to. So I
get the, I get the conveniences 100%.

1189
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,360
I mean, obviously we love
Warcraft or we wouldn't be doing

1190
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:33,280
a show about it. Right? But I
still stand on the fact that there's

1191
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:37,360
just little things, little
things I wish were, were still in

1192
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:40,720
the retail experience. It's
obviously not going to affect my

1193
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:44,240
state of if I'm going to stop
playing retail or anything crazy

1194
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:49,240
like that. I love World of
Warcraft and Azeroth, but yeah, there's

1195
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:50,080
some little things I miss.

1196
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:53,430
Yeah, I think with, with
retail, you know, along with those,

1197
01:16:53,590 --> 01:16:57,350
I think the gameplay systems,
the combat is evolving. Oh yeah,

1198
01:16:57,350 --> 01:17:00,710
we're, you know, we're, we're
on the cusp of, you know, a major

1199
01:17:01,510 --> 01:17:08,150
combat revamp here that is
going to keep things fresh and modernized.

1200
01:17:08,950 --> 01:17:14,230
The other thing for me, a
major thing is that whenever I played

1201
01:17:15,350 --> 01:17:20,680
classic, I always Felt like,
well, there's. There's gonna be an

1202
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:24,400
end to it. And I like to
commit for the. For the long term.

1203
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:26,480
Right. When I play a game.

1204
01:17:26,480 --> 01:17:26,720
Right.

1205
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:30,080
And granted, there's plenty of
content there, don't get me wrong.

1206
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:35,120
But when there's almost like a
sunset clause on it, like, okay,

1207
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:38,440
like once we reach this point,
if they just keep doing expansion

1208
01:17:38,440 --> 01:17:40,680
after expansion after
expansion, then pretty much you're

1209
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:45,130
in retail now, right? I mean,
am I. Am I wrong? Am I off base there?

1210
01:17:45,130 --> 01:17:49,330
No, no, you're. I mean, you
eventually arrive. You know, some

1211
01:17:49,330 --> 01:17:52,930
people say that the moment you
stepped into Wrath the Lich King,

1212
01:17:52,930 --> 01:17:57,290
you started to lose that
initial experience. You know, that's.

1213
01:17:57,290 --> 01:18:00,490
That's, I think, relatively
well. Well understood and known,

1214
01:18:01,850 --> 01:18:05,130
ultimately. Yeah, you arrive.
I mean, it. It is what it is.

1215
01:18:05,130 --> 01:18:08,540
Yeah. And the way that I feel
with retail is that retail is going

1216
01:18:08,540 --> 01:18:11,780
to continue. It's going to
continue to evolve. The storytelling

1217
01:18:11,780 --> 01:18:17,900
is going to continue to
expand, and things are going to continue

1218
01:18:18,060 --> 01:18:23,699
to get better. You have modern
cinematics, you have modern voice

1219
01:18:23,699 --> 01:18:27,020
acting. Who knows with AI
where voice acting is going to go?

1220
01:18:27,020 --> 01:18:31,660
And that's a whole other Oprah
show talking about that kind of stuff.

1221
01:18:32,060 --> 01:18:34,860
You get a cross line, you get
a car. Sorry, go ahead.

1222
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:39,840
You get an AI voice and you
lose your job and.

1223
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:40,920
Oh, that's terrible.

1224
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:46,280
It's a hot topic. That is a
hot topic with us, but we'll. We'll

1225
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:50,440
probably talk about that
another show. But I think that the

1226
01:18:50,440 --> 01:18:54,680
cinematic experience that
we're getting with retail, World

1227
01:18:54,680 --> 01:19:00,280
of Warcraft, is very appealing
to me, knowing that it. This is just

1228
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:03,030
going to keep going. And
everybody always talked about the

1229
01:19:03,030 --> 01:19:05,550
wild killer for years. We
talked about the wild killer for

1230
01:19:05,550 --> 01:19:09,430
years. And the funny part is
nothing's going to kill World of

1231
01:19:09,430 --> 01:19:13,510
Warcraft except for World of
Warcraft. Like, they're in the driver's

1232
01:19:13,510 --> 01:19:14,310
seat, clearly.

1233
01:19:14,550 --> 01:19:15,070
Yep.

1234
01:19:15,070 --> 01:19:17,830
There's other MMOs that are
also very good and very popular,

1235
01:19:18,550 --> 01:19:21,790
but World of Warcraft is the
king. And I think we all know that.

1236
01:19:21,790 --> 01:19:22,310
Yep.

1237
01:19:22,390 --> 01:19:25,950
We can all be honest with
ourselves at this point that World

1238
01:19:25,950 --> 01:19:27,910
of Warcraft is the king.

1239
01:19:28,070 --> 01:19:33,150
Processing, modern
convenience. Ah, yes, the dopamine

1240
01:19:33,150 --> 01:19:36,870
buffet. Would you like fries
with your instant Queue?

1241
01:19:37,590 --> 01:19:40,790
I don't know. I think unless
you have anything else to add about

1242
01:19:41,990 --> 01:19:47,190
retail, I think we should make
a choice. And then I have a final

1243
01:19:47,510 --> 01:19:48,710
question for you.

1244
01:19:48,710 --> 01:19:49,990
Okay, let's make a choice.

1245
01:19:50,310 --> 01:19:52,150
Okay, you go first.

1246
01:19:52,480 --> 01:19:52,960
Retail.

1247
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:58,560
Classic retail. That was
really quick. That was. It was a

1248
01:19:58,560 --> 01:19:59,720
little premature there. I know.

1249
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:03,160
I just kind of fired off the
Hip. My bad. Hang on. For entertainment

1250
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:04,240
value, please ask me the question.

1251
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:10,400
Okay. We know that you like
retail. Retail or classic? Wow. Which

1252
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:10,880
is better?

1253
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:13,360
Well, Rick, you know, I've
really weighed the options. I really

1254
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:16,960
thought about this. I thought
I wrote down a whole dissertation

1255
01:20:18,010 --> 01:20:18,730
to go retail.

1256
01:20:18,810 --> 01:20:24,410
Okay, Rick abides. Rick
abides. I also am going to go retail.

1257
01:20:26,490 --> 01:20:30,810
It doesn't remove the magic of
classic for me. Certainly removes

1258
01:20:30,810 --> 01:20:35,970
the shitty looking characters,
but it doesn't remove the magic of

1259
01:20:35,970 --> 01:20:43,330
classic for me. Let me ask you
this as a follow up, okay. And this

1260
01:20:43,330 --> 01:20:49,320
comes right along with this,
the speculation about classic plus.

1261
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:56,400
Okay, what would it take for
your. What changes would need to

1262
01:20:56,400 --> 01:21:00,680
be made for your main game to
change to classic?

1263
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,480
I don't think that it ever
would. Just to preface everything

1264
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:07,480
I'm telling you now, this show
is geared towards the people of retail.

1265
01:21:07,480 --> 01:21:10,360
That's the community, you
know, obviously that we're focusing

1266
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:13,970
on. I don't believe I ever
would make that switch, let's say

1267
01:21:13,970 --> 01:21:18,250
in a theoretical world where
jibs would make that switch. Well,

1268
01:21:18,730 --> 01:21:23,530
I would like to see updated
visuals. The option for it. The option

1269
01:21:23,530 --> 01:21:26,889
you don't have to use it, but
the option to have that involved.

1270
01:21:27,530 --> 01:21:31,010
I would like to see the
current races available somehow,

1271
01:21:31,010 --> 01:21:36,010
some way when it makes sense
or maybe released in certain, I don't

1272
01:21:36,010 --> 01:21:41,020
know, certain timeline. I
would like to see expanded storylines

1273
01:21:41,020 --> 01:21:47,260
that focus on Azeroth itself
and the tone maintained that you're

1274
01:21:47,260 --> 01:21:50,700
not the champion, you're not
the guy, but you're a guy. Because

1275
01:21:50,700 --> 01:21:53,540
it felt like back then that's
kind of more the vibe that it was.

1276
01:21:53,620 --> 01:21:57,700
I think I could be way off
base here. I'll be honest. Again,

1277
01:21:57,700 --> 01:22:01,700
my first real Warcraft
experience was warlords. But that,

1278
01:22:01,700 --> 01:22:04,680
that back then where you, you
felt like you were an adventurer

1279
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:08,520
and we kind of aren't how we
further developed where we are now,

1280
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:13,600
you're just a guy. I would
like to see that. If I was going

1281
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,200
to play classic, I guess
that's already there. What am I doing?

1282
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:21,960
Yes, it's already there. And
then finally Transmog definitely

1283
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:26,480
big part of. And that again,
selfish. That is just. That's just

1284
01:22:26,480 --> 01:22:33,190
a want. And finally it would
be. It would be the profession system

1285
01:22:34,390 --> 01:22:39,430
that is in current retail to
be present in classic.

1286
01:22:39,830 --> 01:22:41,750
Man, that's a laundry list.

1287
01:22:42,310 --> 01:22:45,430
Yeah, I really have no
intention of. I love and appreciate

1288
01:22:45,430 --> 01:22:48,990
both. I do. I think it's
great. I'm of the opinion, just like

1289
01:22:48,990 --> 01:22:52,710
you said a couple episodes
ago, Warcraft. More Warcraft is more

1290
01:22:52,710 --> 01:22:55,470
Warcraft for everyone. It's
forever. You Know, it's for everybody.

1291
01:22:55,470 --> 01:22:58,290
It's a win. And that's, you
know, what makes the community so

1292
01:22:58,290 --> 01:23:01,690
great. And I love dearly. But,
yeah, classic really is my love.

1293
01:23:02,250 --> 01:23:04,930
Or not classic. I'm sorry.
Retail really. Retail really is my

1294
01:23:04,930 --> 01:23:05,210
love.

1295
01:23:05,610 --> 01:23:07,610
Oh, man. Dude, I was confused
for a minute.

1296
01:23:07,610 --> 01:23:08,650
I know. Ed, you there?

1297
01:23:09,290 --> 01:23:14,770
You did. Okay, you did bring
up a really good point, though. And

1298
01:23:14,770 --> 01:23:19,010
you're not off base. Every
character, if you go through the

1299
01:23:19,010 --> 01:23:23,230
storyline, you are the hero
for sure. Even though they just call

1300
01:23:23,230 --> 01:23:26,030
you adventure, it drives me
nuts when they don't, you know, when

1301
01:23:26,030 --> 01:23:29,950
the. The voice actors, like, I
would have loved if there was a way

1302
01:23:29,950 --> 01:23:35,990
for them just to call you
druid or Warlock, they call you Outlander,

1303
01:23:36,230 --> 01:23:41,190
they call you adventurer, they
call you hero. That's about it. And

1304
01:23:43,030 --> 01:23:47,030
it is a funny thing about,
about this game, though, I love that

1305
01:23:47,030 --> 01:23:50,990
you brought up. I would love
to just be not the guy, but a guy.

1306
01:23:51,070 --> 01:23:53,870
And it brings us back to
something that we've talked about

1307
01:23:53,870 --> 01:23:59,270
for a long time, which is.
Wait a minute. You're the Dovahkin.

1308
01:23:59,270 --> 01:24:02,670
You're the Dovahkin. I am the
do. I am.

1309
01:24:05,790 --> 01:24:08,030
Oh, that's good for an Elder
Scrolls reference.

1310
01:24:08,350 --> 01:24:10,510
If you played Elder Scrolls,
you know exactly what we're talking

1311
01:24:10,510 --> 01:24:13,950
about. Everybody's the damn
Dovahkin. When a lot of times people

1312
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:17,400
just want to be existing in
the world. They don't necessarily

1313
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:20,160
want to be the hero all the
time, but how. How else are they

1314
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:24,800
going to tell the story?
Right? So I like all those things

1315
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:29,960
that you said. I think for me
to make classic, my main would be

1316
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:35,720
an act of God, first of all,
because I love. I love retail, but

1317
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:41,000
it's a little more simple for
me if, if it were, you know, if Classic

1318
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:46,720
plus were to come out and they
were to. Yes, update the. Let's bring

1319
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:51,160
the graphical bar up there a
little bit so it's modernized, tell

1320
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:55,600
different stories. As. As you
said, if the stories were new and

1321
01:24:55,600 --> 01:25:00,360
there were new things for me
to absorb and experience, that would

1322
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:05,720
be really tough for me to
choose. Keep that RPG feel, lose

1323
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:10,850
a lot of the modern
conveniences and give me some hope

1324
01:25:11,410 --> 01:25:17,370
that once we reach Wrath of
the Lich King, it's not over. It's

1325
01:25:17,370 --> 01:25:20,690
not over for me. Or once we,
you know, once we start getting into

1326
01:25:20,690 --> 01:25:26,290
that more modern era, it's not
over. I want new stuff in a Classic

1327
01:25:26,290 --> 01:25:30,410
Plus. And actually, if all
those things came together and that

1328
01:25:30,410 --> 01:25:36,300
is what Classic plus is going
to be, it's terrifying for me because

1329
01:25:36,300 --> 01:25:41,740
of how much I love retail.
It's scary to think about it, but

1330
01:25:42,220 --> 01:25:46,060
yeah, I definitely land in the
retail camp. And I. It's very obvious

1331
01:25:46,060 --> 01:25:49,180
that we land in the retail
camp because our show is about retail

1332
01:25:49,180 --> 01:25:54,060
and it will continue to be
about retail. But I hope that was

1333
01:25:54,060 --> 01:25:57,380
a good conversation. I hope
that was a cool conversation for.

1334
01:25:57,380 --> 01:26:00,490
For you to listen to. I
thought that that's such a hot topic.

1335
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:03,960
Oh, gosh, it's such a hot
moment. I saw that in there. I thought,

1336
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,400
oh, here we go. Here we go.

1337
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:10,640
Yeah, but, you know, that's.
That's our job.

1338
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:11,240
It is.

1339
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:13,400
Unfortunately, we don't get
paid for it, but that is our job

1340
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:13,760
today.

1341
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:19,240
Jokes on you. I have a 401k
goblin. 401k. But, you know, but

1342
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:21,560
there's, oddly enough, seven
asterisks. I don't know what that

1343
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:25,440
means, but anyway, hey, yeah,
it just means you're extra special.

1344
01:26:26,250 --> 01:26:26,890
Wink, wink.

1345
01:26:27,450 --> 01:26:33,050
So I don't know, sum it up.
Retail is fun. Classic is home. Flip,

1346
01:26:33,290 --> 01:26:34,090
flip for you.

1347
01:26:34,410 --> 01:26:36,490
No, Flip, flip. That I did.

1348
01:26:36,490 --> 01:26:41,050
Okay, so for you, it's retail
is home. Classic is fun.

1349
01:26:41,370 --> 01:26:42,010
There you go.

1350
01:26:42,250 --> 01:26:44,410
Okay, I'll buy it.

1351
01:26:44,410 --> 01:26:45,650
Yeah, retail's home.

1352
01:26:45,650 --> 01:26:46,250
Allow it.

1353
01:26:46,250 --> 01:26:48,330
Retail's my home. And
honestly, though, at the end of the

1354
01:26:48,330 --> 01:26:52,810
day, Azeroth is my home.
That's what it is. And I don't like

1355
01:26:52,810 --> 01:26:56,290
drawing hard lines. I don't
like the community putting themselves.

1356
01:26:56,290 --> 01:26:58,850
I don't. I. I would hate for
the community put themselves in any

1357
01:26:58,850 --> 01:27:02,410
spot. You know, it's like at
the end of the day, we're all, as

1358
01:27:02,410 --> 01:27:07,410
in Azeroth, we're all a part
of this grand world that we all love.

1359
01:27:07,970 --> 01:27:13,570
And that's just. Yeah, man.
Like, that's. I'm gonna sound like

1360
01:27:13,570 --> 01:27:16,010
a sappy old man if I keep
going, but yeah, man, like, we're

1361
01:27:16,010 --> 01:27:20,360
all for one dude. Like, it's.
I love it. I love the world. I love

1362
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:23,200
the dev team behind it that
have devoted so many years to it,

1363
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:26,560
so many careers who've come
and gone. Like, that's history. You

1364
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:32,080
know, we essentially just had
a history lesson, really. And, yeah,

1365
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:34,800
I look forward to the next 10
years of it, so.

1366
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:40,080
I do, too. My beard is gonna
be a lot grayer in another 10 years.

1367
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:42,800
Maybe we'll live next to each
other. We'll be grumpy old men.

1368
01:27:43,210 --> 01:27:51,130
Yep, that's the plan. Walk out
and kick dog poop onto your lawn.

1369
01:27:51,130 --> 01:27:54,090
Give me a middle finger and go
to your. Do your. Continue about

1370
01:27:54,090 --> 01:27:56,890
your day. Oh, I love it. Well,
folks, we'll be right back. We're

1371
01:27:56,890 --> 01:28:00,170
gonna take commercial Break
and we'll wrap up the show Sunday,

1372
01:28:00,410 --> 01:28:05,690
Sunday, Sunday. Get ready for
pure unfiltered high octane goblin

1373
01:28:05,690 --> 01:28:12,340
mayhem at the Kazan demolition
derby. Rocket powered junkers, fell

1374
01:28:12,340 --> 01:28:16,980
fueled clunkers and goblins
who absolutely did not read the safety

1375
01:28:16,980 --> 01:28:22,580
manual. See squeak and no
brakes, boom, whistle, crash into

1376
01:28:22,740 --> 01:28:27,980
everything and then apologize
to nothing. Kids enter free if they

1377
01:28:27,980 --> 01:28:33,340
sign the waiver. That's
Sunday, Sunday, Sunday at the undermine

1378
01:28:33,340 --> 01:28:37,710
dust bowl around arena where
the motto is if it moves, hit it.

1379
01:28:43,310 --> 01:28:47,270
All right everybody. Well,
thank you so much for tuning in.

1380
01:28:47,270 --> 01:28:51,230
This was Azeroth Morning
Radio. Folks, if you're enjoying

1381
01:28:51,230 --> 01:28:54,830
your time here, we are
encroaching on 10 episodes. On 10

1382
01:28:54,830 --> 01:28:57,510
episodes. And we've been
invited to come on another show at

1383
01:28:57,510 --> 01:29:00,710
some point to talk about that
to celebrate that thing. We'll have

1384
01:29:00,710 --> 01:29:05,560
details for that in the
future. But yeah, we're encroaching

1385
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:10,000
on 10 episodes and really we
want to hear from you feedback, things

1386
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:12,600
you'd love to see, things you
don't like, things that you you'd

1387
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,960
love for us to lean more into.
This show is made by the community

1388
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:20,760
with a love for the community.
And so this show is for you. And

1389
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:23,600
so please let us know. Thank
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1390
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:26,760
your time with here here with
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1391
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:29,770
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1392
01:29:29,770 --> 01:29:32,970
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1393
01:29:32,970 --> 01:29:37,690
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1394
01:29:37,770 --> 01:29:40,970
Full episode transcripts are
there for those who need it. You

1395
01:29:40,970 --> 01:29:43,450
can learn more about AMR and
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1396
01:29:43,450 --> 01:29:46,490
with us directly over at the
contact page. Cash.

1397
01:29:46,650 --> 01:29:51,930
Friends, you can email us with
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1398
01:29:52,170 --> 01:29:58,450
to like nostalgic things
because the graphics are dated@azerothmorningradiomail.com

1399
01:29:58,450 --> 01:30:02,570
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1400
01:30:02,570 --> 01:30:07,570
Radio. You can put a little
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1401
01:30:07,570 --> 01:30:12,930
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1402
01:30:13,170 --> 01:30:16,690
put a thumbs down on Twitch at
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1403
01:30:16,690 --> 01:30:18,890
Or you can do, you can do
everything that's opposite of what

1404
01:30:18,890 --> 01:30:20,370
he has told you and we take
that too.

1405
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:25,760
Yeah, we have thick skin kind
of. Oh, I cry a lot.

1406
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:28,080
Well, you know, when in Rome.

1407
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:32,480
Friends, don't forget, send us
heroes call topics like I've said

1408
01:30:32,480 --> 01:30:35,920
that for a few weeks. I'm
serious. We want to know what the

1409
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:39,080
community is doing that you
think is amazing and wholesome, and

1410
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:43,840
then we want to detail it on
the show. Massive shout out for Pulling

1411
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:48,370
Aggro irl, which is agro, our
guild. They're making some changes

1412
01:30:48,370 --> 01:30:52,650
over there. We're getting some
new officers, and they continue to

1413
01:30:52,650 --> 01:30:55,730
be an amazing guild that is
made for adults, professionals, parents,

1414
01:30:55,730 --> 01:30:59,130
and players that just might
not have all the time in the world

1415
01:30:59,130 --> 01:31:03,290
to neck beard World of
Warcraft. So Pulling Aggro irl, you

1416
01:31:03,290 --> 01:31:06,410
can find them in the guild
finder and come join us over there.

1417
01:31:06,410 --> 01:31:08,010
We'd love to run some content
with you.

1418
01:31:08,010 --> 01:31:12,820
There you go, friends, we love
you. Stay awesome, and we can't wait

1419
01:31:12,820 --> 01:31:16,820
to see you at BlizzCon. Have a
great week, everybody. I need a target.

1420
01:31:17,220 --> 01:31:18,420
I need a freaking target.